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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #285 on: April 27, 2013, 07:58:PM »
So it is-----------on the Essex marshes. Here was I thinking it was Southern Spain.

That's Fuengirola, it's a bit like Essex if you squint.
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« Reply #286 on: April 27, 2013, 08:01:PM »
That's Fuengirola, it's a bit like Essex if you squint.


I knew it sounded familiar in a strange sort of way.

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« Reply #287 on: April 27, 2013, 08:04:PM »
So it is-----------on the Essex marshes. Here was I thinking it was Southern Spain.



Well, which ever country it's in, I live about 10 miles from it ;D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #288 on: April 27, 2013, 08:17:PM »
What is important to me are the words Jeremy supposedly used in that conversation, whatever time it was. "Something is wrong at the farm."
If he had killed his family, I see no logic in those words being used. If he didn´t, I do see some logic: his father had just phoned him saying "She/Sheila´s gone mad, she´s got the gun, come quickly." (not verbatim, sorry). It is a confusing message to get in the middle of the night. Jeremy must have thought: Why didn´t he call the police - or did he call the police? Does he want me to call the police - wouldn´t he have told me to call the police? I wonder if I should call the police, maybe he will get mad if I do - he told ME to come over. I am scared to go there if Sheila has gone mad with a gun. What shall I do??? I´ll call Julie, perhaps she can tell me what I should do. RINGRINGRING, Jeremy: "Something is wrong at the farm (he probably said a few more sentences, including maybe, what do you think I should do?)" Julie: "It´s probably nothing, Sheila has fits all the time, go back to bed."
Jeremy alone again, nah, I can´t just go back to bed, dad sounded very upset. I´ll call the local coppers, maybe that will upset dad less than if I call 911.
Makes sense to me.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #289 on: April 27, 2013, 08:21:PM »
What is important to me are the words Jeremy supposedly used in that conversation, whatever time it was. "Something is wrong at the farm."
If he had killed his family, I see no logic in those words being used. If he didn´t, I do see some logic: his father had just phoned him saying "She/Sheila´s gone mad, she´s got the gun, come quickly." (not verbatim, sorry). It is a confusing message to get in the middle of the night. Jeremy must have thought: Why didn´t he call the police - or did he call the police? Does he want me to call the police - wouldn´t he have told me to call the police? I wonder if I should call the police, maybe he will get mad if I do - he told ME to come over. I am scared to go there if Sheila has gone mad with a gun. What shall I do??? I´ll call Julie, perhaps she can tell me what I should do. RINGRINGRING, Jeremy: "Something is wrong at the farm (he probably said a few more sentences, including maybe, what do you think I should do?)" Julie: "It´s probably nothing, Sheila has fits all the time, go back to bed."
Jeremy alone again, nah, I can´t just go back to bed, dad sounded very upset. I´ll call the local coppers, maybe that will upset dad less than if I call 911.
Makes sense to me.

It makes perfect sense to me too Alias...I love logic!  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #290 on: April 27, 2013, 08:27:PM »
What is important to me are the words Jeremy supposedly used in that conversation, whatever time it was. "Something is wrong at the farm."
If he had killed his family, I see no logic in those words being used. If he didn´t, I do see some logic: his father had just phoned him saying "She/Sheila´s gone mad, she´s got the gun, come quickly." (not verbatim, sorry). It is a confusing message to get in the middle of the night. Jeremy must have thought: Why didn´t he call the police - or did he call the police? Does he want me to call the police - wouldn´t he have told me to call the police? I wonder if I should call the police, maybe he will get mad if I do - he told ME to come over. I am scared to go there if Sheila has gone mad with a gun. What shall I do??? I´ll call Julie, perhaps she can tell me what I should do. RINGRINGRING, Jeremy: "Something is wrong at the farm (he probably said a few more sentences, including maybe, what do you think I should do?)" Julie: "It´s probably nothing, Sheila has fits all the time, go back to bed."
Jeremy alone again, nah, I can´t just go back to bed, dad sounded very upset. I´ll call the local coppers, maybe that will upset dad less than if I call 911.
Makes sense to me.



I'll accept that 100% It makes sense, good sense and nothing but good sense :D :D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #291 on: April 27, 2013, 08:27:PM »
What is important to me are the words Jeremy supposedly used in that conversation, whatever time it was. "Something is wrong at the farm."
If he had killed his family, I see no logic in those words being used. If he didn´t, I do see some logic: his father had just phoned him saying "She/Sheila´s gone mad, she´s got the gun, come quickly." (not verbatim, sorry). It is a confusing message to get in the middle of the night. Jeremy must have thought: Why didn´t he call the police - or did he call the police? Does he want me to call the police - wouldn´t he have told me to call the police? I wonder if I should call the police, maybe he will get mad if I do - he told ME to come over. I am scared to go there if Sheila has gone mad with a gun. What shall I do??? I´ll call Julie, perhaps she can tell me what I should do. RINGRINGRING, Jeremy: "Something is wrong at the farm (he probably said a few more sentences, including maybe, what do you think I should do?)" Julie: "It´s probably nothing, Sheila has fits all the time, go back to bed."
Jeremy alone again, nah, I can´t just go back to bed, dad sounded very upset. I´ll call the local coppers, maybe that will upset dad less than if I call 911.
Makes sense to me.
But it wasn't just "something's wrong at the Farm" was it? Before Jeremy realized that Julie was on a shared line and might be overheard he'd told her "all is going well.." Julie must have known then that all were dead,that she either kept quiet,was charged as an accessory,would see the man she still loved go to prison,or that her past concealed criminal history would emerge. As things began to unfurl that first morning at Goldhanger Julie was almost relieved with the four murders and a suicide theory which kept the heat off her temporarily,until her conscience took over and she became aware that the authorities had by necessity to get involved..
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« Reply #292 on: April 27, 2013, 08:31:PM »
That's Fuengirola, it's a bit like Essex if you squint.
And you have to squint if the sun's out. :)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #293 on: April 27, 2013, 08:32:PM »
But it wasn't just "something's wrong at the Farm" was it? Before Jeremy realized that Julie was on a shared line and might be overheard he'd told her "all is going well.." Julie must have known then that all were dead,that she either kept quiet,was charged as an accessory,would see the man she still loved go to prison,or that her past concealed criminal history would emerge. As things began to unfurl that first morning at Goldhanger Julie was almost relieved with the four murders and a suicide theory which kept the heat off her temporarily,until her conscience took over and she became aware that the authorities had by necessity to get involved..


Obviously I'm not reading enough books. This is the first time I've read that Jeremy used those words to Julie.

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« Reply #294 on: April 27, 2013, 08:39:PM »
But it wasn't just "something's wrong at the Farm" was it? Before Jeremy realized that Julie was on a shared line and might be overheard he'd told her "all is going well.." Julie must have known then that all were dead,that she either kept quiet,was charged as an accessory,would see the man she still loved go to prison,or that her past concealed criminal history would emerge. As things began to unfurl that first morning at Goldhanger Julie was almost relieved with the four murders and a suicide theory which kept the heat off her temporarily,until her conscience took over and she became aware that the authorities had by necessity to get involved..
Steve do you not realise that either all that you have said has been made up you you yourself and is in fact a lie? Or it is all true. If that is so then JM can still be charged, not only for perverting the course of justice. But also for being an accessory after the fact. Which is it to be, Is it a lie, or is it true?

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #295 on: April 27, 2013, 08:47:PM »

Obviously I'm not reading enough books. This is the first time I've read that Jeremy used those words to Julie.

In JMs statement she says that he said "everything is going well, not to worry, there is something wrong at the farm".
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #296 on: April 27, 2013, 08:49:PM »
Tell me, on a clock that only displays hours and minutes, how do you tell the difference between 10 minutes and 9 1/2 minutes?

No, she said 3.15 in one statement and 3.12 in another. I don't think she ever said 3.20.

2.59 is 2 something.

Both Helen and Julie admitted that they hadn't looked at clocks.

No, you carry on, it's helping me avoid cleaning the bathroom.

If Julie hadn't looked at a clock then how on earth did she arrive at the idea it was 3:30 in her statement on the 08/08/95 because at this point she had not consulted with anyone at her flat; yet she later states and admits at not looking at the time... In court when cross examined she later agreed that this is what she said.....Have you cleaned that bathroom? lol  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #297 on: April 27, 2013, 08:58:PM »
If Julie hadn't looked at a clock then how on earth did she arrive at the idea it was 3:30 in her statement on the 08/08/95 because at this point she had not consulted with anyone at her flat; yet she later states and admits at not looking at the time... In court when cross examined she later agreed that this is what she said.....Have you cleaned that bathroom? lol  :) :) :) :)

If I recall correctly, she called the flat whilst she was making that statement and spoke to Helen. When Helen later made a statement she said it was 3am, and in cross examination said that she'd told Julie 3am. She also said that she hadn't checked her watch however, and that it could have been as late as 3.30.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #298 on: April 27, 2013, 09:04:PM »
If I recall correctly, she called the flat whilst she was making that statement and spoke to Helen. When Helen later made a statement she said it was 3am, and in cross examination said that she'd told Julie 3am. She also said that she hadn't checked her watch however, and that it could have been as late as 3.30.

Yes I have!

I think it was in her 2nd statement she amends it to 3:15 see 304 COA. 

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #299 on: April 27, 2013, 09:05:PM »
What is important to me are the words Jeremy supposedly used in that conversation, whatever time it was. "Something is wrong at the farm."
If he had killed his family, I see no logic in those words being used. If he didn´t, I do see some logic: his father had just phoned him saying "She/Sheila´s gone mad, she´s got the gun, come quickly." (not verbatim, sorry). It is a confusing message to get in the middle of the night. Jeremy must have thought: Why didn´t he call the police - or did he call the police? Does he want me to call the police - wouldn´t he have told me to call the police? I wonder if I should call the police, maybe he will get mad if I do - he told ME to come over. I am scared to go there if Sheila has gone mad with a gun. What shall I do??? I´ll call Julie, perhaps she can tell me what I should do. RINGRINGRING, Jeremy: "Something is wrong at the farm (he probably said a few more sentences, including maybe, what do you think I should do?)" Julie: "It´s probably nothing, Sheila has fits all the time, go back to bed."
Jeremy alone again, nah, I can´t just go back to bed, dad sounded very upset. I´ll call the local coppers, maybe that will upset dad less than if I call 911.
Makes sense to me.





That's excellent,Alias,,,and makes more sense given the type of character Jeremy was. Hesitant if he had to think and decide for himself.