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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #255 on: April 27, 2013, 05:41:PM »
I haven't learned very much so far this afternoon except that there was a feather at White House Farm,somebody set their clock ten minutes fast and lookout is a half-caste..

Lol...You have to know about the evidence in order to understand, I guess.... ;) :D :D :D :D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #256 on: April 27, 2013, 05:44:PM »
She couldn't remember if she informed her bank about the cheque book and card, she could not remember if Julie had been to the police about Jeremy. Yet, we are expected to believe she could remember the exact time Jeremy had called Julie...when she was half asleep. She had already confirmed the time at being 3:15 yet waits till being re-questioned by the police weeks later and tells them she puts her clock amazingly 10 minutes fast...Bu joves I bet Jones was jumping for joy......but, what they did not realise is that the time was indeed incorrect and no matter how you look at it, the time had to fit in at 3:00.....and it clearly does not....plus the clock itself had been put back an hour in October 85 then put forward again in spring 86... To say that you only change the hours is ludicrous because the 2nd time Jones makes his visite the clock was only some 7 minutes fast and not 10......

April....does taking that stuff distort the mind?   :) :) :) :) :)

Actually on the second visit it was 12 minutes fast.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #257 on: April 27, 2013, 05:49:PM »
Actually on the second visit it was 12 minutes fast.

Thank you Bridget......I knew this is what you would say and this is exactly what I was getting at...see how the time 3:00 now conveniently slots into place.  Having now changed her statement further by saying it was 3:12....in order to make the call look like it was 3:00. I rest my case!  :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #258 on: April 27, 2013, 05:56:PM »
I haven't learned very much so far this afternoon except that there was a feather at White House Farm,somebody set their clock ten minutes fast and lookout is a half-caste..


Steve,,,what makes you say that I'm a half caste.?

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #259 on: April 27, 2013, 05:56:PM »
Thank you Bridget......I knew this is what you would say and this is exactly what I was getting at...see how the time 3:00 now conveniently slots into place.  Having now changed her statement further by saying it was 3:12....in order to make the call look like it was 3:00. I rest my case!  :) :) :) :) :)

No lol, it was 12 minutes fast in September 1986, it was 9.5 minutes fast in November 1985, her evidence in court was that the clock said 3.12, making it 3.02.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #260 on: April 27, 2013, 05:58:PM »
She couldn't remember if she informed her bank about the cheque book and card, she could not remember if Julie had been to the police about Jeremy. Yet, we are expected to believe she could remember the exact time Jeremy had called Julie...when she was half asleep. She had already confirmed the time at being 3:15 yet waits till being re-questioned by the police weeks later and tells them she puts her clock amazingly 10 minutes fast...Bu joves I bet Jones was jumping for joy......but, what they did not realise is that the time was indeed incorrect and no matter how you look at it, the time had to fit in at 3:00.....and it clearly does not....plus the clock itself had been put back an hour in October 85 then put forward again in spring 86... To say that you only change the hours is ludicrous because the 2nd time Jones makes his visite the clock was only some 7 minutes fast and not 10......

April....does taking that stuff distort the mind?   :) :) :) :) :)


I believe Steve thinks that may be the case, Patti.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #261 on: April 27, 2013, 06:02:PM »
No lol, it was 12 minutes fast in September 1986, it was 9.5 minutes fast in November 1985, her evidence in court was that the clock said 3.12, making it 3.02.

So the minutes of that clock had been changed on two separate occasions as documented.  Once 4 months after the murders took place and the other 13 months later. Not on any of those occasions was it fast by 10 minutes was it?   :-\ :) :) :) :)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #262 on: April 27, 2013, 06:23:PM »

Steve,,,what makes you say that I'm a half caste.?
One of your threads in which you described yourself as a black and white person-just a joke..has it been removed? How terribly poignant that the twins brought in a feather for Grandma and Grandad. The clock times are irrelevant as the fact that Jeremy made a call at all is the most telling point.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #263 on: April 27, 2013, 06:23:PM »
So the minutes of that clock had been changed on two separate occasions as documented.  Once 4 months after the murders took place and the other 13 months later. Not on any of those occasions was it fast by 10 minutes was it?   :-\ :) :) :) :)

I think 9 1/2 minutes is probably close enough to 10 given that those clocks don't display seconds. The clock could have been reset twice or 100 times, what difference does it make?
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #264 on: April 27, 2013, 06:26:PM »
One of your threads in which you described yourself as a black and white person-just a joke..has it been removed? How terribly poignant that the twins brought in a feather for Grandma and Grandad. The clock times are irrelevant as the fact that Jeremy made a call at all is the most telling point.


 ;D ;D ;D Oh,,I see Steve. I wasn't very quick on the uptake there,was I.?

Of course Jeremy made a call. After his fathers' was logged.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #265 on: April 27, 2013, 06:26:PM »
LOL...

So not only did she say that she sets her clock 10 minutes fast, but after checks done by police this practise was incorrect for neither at any stage was it confirmed that the clock was set 10 minutes fast.  In fact on one occasion it was set below 10 minutes lol

Then she gives two false times to the police, well 3 in fact.  She confirms to Julie at the onset via telephone that it was 3:15. She tells police it was 3:20 then remarkably changes that to 3:12.

Her room mate Woad says she remembers the clock being 2 something, it appears her clock must have been set rather slow....

Helen E....states she thought the call was about 3:30....the same time Julie had stated until that was changed to 3:15 after SB confirmed this too her.....

The only outcome of all of this is that no bugger can tell the time....if there was an overall consistency with the time the call was made then I would be happy to believe the call was made closer to 3am rather than later....but because this time can't be fully proved in its entirety, then I am inclined to believe that it does not give credence.  Shall I shut up now? lol  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #266 on: April 27, 2013, 06:28:PM »
Hello lookout  steve was having a joke with you as he often does.  I knew what he meant ;D ;D ;D Keep up girl ;D  refuse to comment on the feather or the time. ;D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #267 on: April 27, 2013, 06:32:PM »
Hello lookout  steve was having a joke with you as he often does.  I knew what he meant ;D ;D ;D Keep up girl ;D  refuse to comment on the feather or the time. ;D


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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #268 on: April 27, 2013, 06:35:PM »
I think 9 1/2 minutes is probably close enough to 10 given that those clocks don't display seconds. The clock could have been reset twice or 100 times, what difference does it make?

It makes a massive difference, because the prosecution tried to make out that Jeremy called Julie prior to having received a telephone call from his father and also calling her prior to calling the police....Whether the clock was fast or not it cannot be confirmed to how fast it was just after the murders, because as we know the clock was fast by 9 minutes on one occasion and 12 on another...so who is to say how fast it was just after the murders and prior to moving the clock back an hour in October...the only seconds that come into this is given by Jones.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #269 on: April 27, 2013, 06:39:PM »
LOL...

So not only did she say that she sets her clock 10 minutes fast, but after checks done by police this practise was incorrect for neither at any stage was it confirmed that the clock was set 10 minutes fast.  In fact on one occasion it was set below 10 minutes lol

Tell me, on a clock that only displays hours and minutes, how do you tell the difference between 10 minutes and 9 1/2 minutes?

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Then she gives two false times to the police, well 3 in fact.  She confirms to Julie at the onset via telephone that it was 3:15. She tells police it was 3:20 then remarkably changes that to 3:12.

No, she said 3.15 in one statement and 3.12 in another. I don't think she ever said 3.20.

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Her room mate Woad says she remembers the clock being 2 something, it appears her clock must have been set rather slow....

2.59 is 2 something.

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Helen E....states she thought the call was about 3:30....the same time Julie had stated until that was changed to 3:15 after SB confirmed this too her.....

Both Helen and Julie admitted that they hadn't looked at clocks.

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The only outcome of all of this is that no bugger can tell the time....if there was an overall consistency with the time the call was made then I would be happy to believe the call was made closer to 3am rather than later....but because this time can't be fully proved in its entirety, then I am inclined to believe that it does not give credence.  Shall I shut up now? lol  :) :) :) :)

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