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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2013, 09:57:PM »
Thanks Bridget!! Team work!!  ;D I found the rest of it but you save me a job!!

No problem, Mike had already posted it but I think it was a good idea to give it a shiny new thread.
....just cos I eat worms...

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2013, 10:00:PM »
No problem, Mike had already posted it but I think it was a good idea to give it a shiny new thread.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2013, 06:56:PM »
Why on earth did Ann Eaton take notes of what Jeremy was telling the police on the 7th of August 1985? Not even the police suspected him at that point. It is very strange!!
Love the bit about the wall-paper, OMG, TEMPER! It does underline that AE was VERY frustrated with the plans Jeremy had told her about, which blocked her and her husband´s plans for where they were going to live, their whole future. This went close to her core, so she and her hubby must have been exceptionally relieved with the final outcome of the case: Jeremy eliminated.

Also noticed that Julie was jealous when answering the door when Ann Eaton came to Jeremy´s place, post Osea burglary, pre murders, first time AE and JM met. JM had a hard time with another female ringing the bell at Jeremy´s. Sickly jealous I would say, if she was apprehensive merely by the sight of another woman...

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2013, 07:08:PM »
Why on earth did Ann Eaton take notes of what Jeremy was telling the police on the 7th of August 1985? Not even the police suspected him at that point. It is very strange!!
Love the bit about the wall-paper, OMG, TEMPER! It does underline that AE was VERY frustrated with the plans Jeremy had told her about, which blocked her and her husband´s plans for where they were going to live, their whole future. This went close to her core, so she and her hubby must have been exceptionally relieved with the final outcome of the case: Jeremy eliminated.

Also noticed that Julie was jealous when answering the door when Ann Eaton came to Jeremy´s place, post Osea burglary, pre murders, first time AE and JM met. JM had a hard time with another female ringing the bell at Jeremy´s. Sickly jealous I would say, if she was apprehensive merely by the sight of another woman...


That's exactly how I read it, Alias. We frequently hear of information gained through police intelligence. There was very little evidence of it at work in 1984 and not a psychologist in sight.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2013, 07:18:PM »
Jeremy told the police on the 7th that he had a good relationship with his father - Ann quickly told the coppers that was not true.
How insensitive. Here is a young man who has just lost his family in a horrendous manner, and she is blurting out that he had a bad relationship with his father! No one suspected Jeremy at this point. First of all, how would she know, she didn´t see them that much together; but she reasons: life style issues and the fact that Jeremy (at 24!) didn´t live at WHF even if there was plenty of room=bad relationship.
Oh, gosh, I had two rooms at my disposal in my mother´s house, still I chose to move out at the age of, (GHASP) 20.
That is what people do.

P.S. Something else I noticed. Here Ann Eaton says she had a very good relationship with Sheila, and that they got on well. Sorry, don´t recall where, but I read in some other statement AE made that she and Sheila were not compatible at all. AE described herself as the "practical type", whereas Sheila was not at all. AE had a hard time with Sheila´s need to sit around and talk without "doing" anything.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2013, 07:53:PM »
Jeremy told the police on the 7th that he had a good relationship with his father - Ann quickly told the coppers that was not true.
How insensitive. Here is a young man who has just lost his family in a horrendous manner, and she is blurting out that he had a bad relationship with his father! No one suspected Jeremy at this point. First of all, how would she know, she didn´t see them that much together; but she reasons: life style issues and the fact that Jeremy (at 24!) didn´t live at WHF even if there was plenty of room=bad relationship.
Oh, gosh, I had two rooms at my disposal in my mother´s house, still I chose to move out at the age of, (GHASP) 20.
That is what people do.

P.S. Something else I noticed. Here Ann Eaton says she had a very good relationship with Sheila, and that they got on well. Sorry, don´t recall where, but I read in some other statement AE made that she and Sheila were not compatible at all. AE described herself as the "practical type", whereas Sheila was not at all. AE had a hard time with Sheila´s need to sit around and talk without "doing" anything.


Yes Alias. I too found strange the amount of intimate family knowledge Ann has, given that she admits to not knowing Jeremy and Sheila throughout their childhood and didn't get the chance as a young adult because they were rarely at the farm.

Perhaps she thought she and Sheila had a good relationship because they didn't actually communicate, so probably never became close enough to disagree about anything. My own feeling is that she had NOTHING in common with her and was probably vaguely disapproving of her lifestyle. In what she has written, quite lengthily, she seems to have made no effort whatsoever with her. I can't imagine what was the atmosphere between them when Sheila started cleaning for her.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2013, 08:09:PM »
Jeremy has a lot of friends in Essex to whom he thanked for their support.Just thought I'd mention that.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2013, 08:15:PM »
Funnily enough,far from condemning Jeremy, the statement actually tells us more about the kind of person AE was back then. I actually feel sorry for Jeremy,he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't!
I am amazed by her constant references to the fact that Jeremy could still eat a meal. I noticed that so too could she! And she had just lost five family members too! What a load of boll ox   ::)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2013, 08:16:PM »

Yes Alias. I too found strange the amount of intimate family knowledge Ann has, given that she admits to not knowing Jeremy and Sheila throughout their childhood and didn't get the chance as a young adult because they were rarely at the farm.

Perhaps she thought she and Sheila had a good relationship because they didn't actually communicate, so probably never became close enough to disagree about anything. My own feeling is that she had NOTHING in common with her and was probably vaguely disapproving of her lifestyle. In what she has written, quite lengthily, she seems to have made no effort whatsoever with her. I can't imagine what was the atmosphere between them when Sheila started cleaning for her.

Probably OK - at first at least. I can imagine Sheila would have become bored with this arrangement eventually.
Sheila would have been happy enough to get away from her mother - and I don´t see anything strange in June asking Ann for this "favour". 1. June could get a break from Sheila. 2. Sheila could get a break from home (June). 3. Sheila could make friends (I think that could actuallybe the main reason June sent her to Ann) 4. Sheila could actually learn something about house chores. Teens tend not to listen to their parents.
Just my take on it - I could be wrong.

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Just commenting on Ann´s statement as the things pop into my head, sorry for not being systematic.
Colin´s immediate reaction was to blame himself for leaving the twins with Sheila at WHF. He was devastated by it, especially after that drive down there where Sheila didn´t say one single word.
I have all the sympathy in the world for Colin for having lost both his precious sons, but here is another one immensely relieved that Jeremy was found guilty. It gave Colin peace of mind for the rest of his life. If Jeremy did it, Colin wouldn´t have to blame himself anymore. He would have been more than ready to convince himself of Jeremy´s guilt. (Jeremy might be guilty, I don´t know - I am probably 70% for innosence, 30% for guilty.)



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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2013, 08:20:PM »
Probably OK - at first at least. I can imagine Sheila would have become bored with this arrangement eventually.
Sheila would have been happy enough to get away from her mother - and I don´t see anything strange in June asking Ann for this "favour". 1. June could get a break from Sheila. 2. Sheila could get a break from home (June). 3. Sheila could make friends (I think that could actuallybe the main reason June sent her to Ann) 4. Sheila could actually learn something about house chores. Teens tend not to listen to their parents.
Just my take on it - I could be wrong.

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Just commenting on Ann´s statement as the things pop into my head, sorry for not being systematic.
Colin´s immediate reaction was to blame himself for leaving the twins with Sheila at WHF. He was devastated by it, especially after that drive down there where Sheila didn´t say one single word.
I have all the sympathy in the world for Colin for having lost both his precious sons, but here is another one immensely relieved that Jeremy was found guilty. It gave Colin peace of mind for the rest of his life. If Jeremy did it, Colin wouldn´t have to blame himself anymore. He would have been more than ready to convince himself of Jeremy´s guilt. (Jeremy might be guilty, I don´t know - I am probably 70% for innosence, 30% for guilty.)
Yet in his book which i have he says she s finally done it.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2013, 08:23:PM »
Funnily enough,far from condemning Jeremy, the statement actually tells us more about the kind of person AE was back then. I actually feel sorry for Jeremy,he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't!
I am amazed by her constant references to the fact that Jeremy could still eat a meal. I noticed that so too could she! And she had just lost five family members too! What a load of boll ox   ::)

That is total boll ox, as you put it. Ann seems to be very cool, calm and collected during the whole thing, much, much more than Jeremy (not her parents, sister and nephews, but still). Her priority when going to Jeremy´s place that day was in fact to bring milk, sugar, bisquits, tea or coffee with her. Well, if she didn´t expect Jeremy to ingest anything out of grief, it must have been for herself then..... 8)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2013, 08:25:PM »
Yet in his book which i have he says she s finally done it.

Yes, that was his immediate reaction when he was told, according to him. Then the self-blame set in. (I was talking about what Ann Eaton describes about Colin when he arrived at Jeremy´s in her statement.)

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2013, 08:29:PM »
So when we examine closely everything which was said of Jeremy by the people who were supposed to know him better than anyone, but in fact, probably knew VERY little about him, not ONE of them has anything positive to say about him. EVERY one of them seems to be determined of his guilt, largely, I suspect, because he simply didn't fit in in the way it was thought he should.

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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2013, 08:31:PM »
That is total boll ox, as you put it. Ann seems to be very cool, calm and collected during the whole thing, much, much more than Jeremy (not her parents, sister and nephews, but still). Her priority when going to Jeremy´s place that day was in fact to bring milk, sugar, bisquits, tea or coffee with her. Well, if she didn´t expect Jeremy to ingest anything out of grief, it must have been for herself then..... 8)
[/quote its really quite simple, if you want something you dont ask you take, rather than open a new topic i can offer here, surely on moral grounds its most strange to take up residency in a house which has seen so much death, its not right.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2013, 08:39:PM »
OK, this here is what I find the strangest in the whole (half - have only read half so far  :P) is this, as I wrote earlier, but here it is again, transscribed:

"I was keenly listened in (sic) what Jeremy was saying to the police. I made some notes about what Jeremy was saying to the police. When I arrived home later that day I wrote out on a card what Jeremy had been saying from the notes made earlier."

Now, WHO would do such a thing?!
Was she taking notes right undeer Jeremy´s nose, or was she lurking and eagerly scribbling outside whatever room Jeremy and police officers were in? Where did she get pen and paper, did she bring that too, or did she grab some at Jeremy´s place?
She sure is a woman who wastes NO time!

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Another thing. She claims that it would take two or three minutes, maybe more, to get from Jeremy´s bedroom to his telephone down the stairs. I have one word: BS!