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Re: The 4/5 telephone calls made that night
« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2013, 02:35:PM »
So why did he take it home then?
Dunno mate, other than the fact that he had too as part of the conditions of his license.
It is strange that he removed it, when he stated he usually kept it at the farm. [He amended this statement]

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« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2013, 02:45:PM »
I'm not certain,but I think he said he took it home the previous weekend as he wanted to use it on a shoot he had coming up? Which goes against the terms of his license anyway. 

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« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2013, 07:21:PM »
I'm not certain,but I think he said he took it home the previous weekend as he wanted to use it on a shoot he had coming up? Which goes against the terms of his license anyway.
How could he use it if he left the bolt at WHF?

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« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2013, 07:24:PM »
I think he took it home because it had been moved from the bathroom to the gun cupboard. He didn;t like the idea that his gun had been moved.  ??? ??? ???

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« Reply #109 on: April 17, 2013, 02:12:PM »
How could he use it if he left the bolt at WHF?
He left the BRNO at the farm, but removed the bolt, and took it home to Bourne End.

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« Reply #110 on: April 17, 2013, 02:39:PM »
i dont find jeremys bevior as to the phone calls that odd considering he had been woken out of his sleep at 3 am or so.

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« Reply #111 on: April 17, 2013, 02:58:PM »
i dont find jeremys bevior as to the phone calls that odd considering he had been woken out of his sleep at 3 am or so.

I don't find it odd at all - people forget that they are looking at things in hindsight!!

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« Reply #112 on: April 17, 2013, 03:02:PM »
if someone had woken me up with a very strange phone call at 3 am i think it would talk me a while to respond.

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« Reply #113 on: April 17, 2013, 03:19:PM »
I don't find it odd at all - people forget that they are looking at things in hindsight!!
I don't want to be a fly in the ointment here, but I find it frustrating that you are implying what I am saying is in hindsight.
"come quickly your sister has gone berserk, and has the gun". Now how clear is that.
I will just call Julie, then two calls to police stations before I dress. Hindsight has nothing to do with it.
I can comfortable state that I would have dialled 999 [why didn't Ralph?], or would have responded to the call. Hindsight has nothing to do with this Caroline IMO.

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« Reply #114 on: April 17, 2013, 03:29:PM »
Hi Buddy  I can in some way relate to the behaviour of Jeremy Bamber.  I have always thought Julie was the strong one of the two and it seemed he wanted to talk to her about the matter I suspect he would have been in a state of panic and maybe not taken the matter too seriously as he may have been used to Sheila's outbursts if she had them previously.  I am still not convinced Ralph did not dial 999 by activating the panic button.  It is so strange as we all see things so differently and really IMO only EP have a clear idea what happened and they are not about to tell us.

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« Reply #115 on: April 17, 2013, 03:39:PM »
Hi Buddy  I can in some way relate to the behaviour of Jeremy Bamber.  I have always thought Julie was the strong one of the two and it seemed he wanted to talk to her about the matter I suspect he would have been in a state of panic and maybe not taken the matter too seriously as he may have been used to Sheila's outbursts if she had them previously.  I am still not convinced Ralph did not dial 999 by activating the panic button.  It is so strange as we all see things so differently and really IMO only EP have a clear idea what happened and they are not about to tell us.
Hi Susan it is clear that he Ralph did not activate the panic button [if it existed], because he allegedly spoke to the police, and said his daughter had gone crazy. A panic button only alarms the police of an emergency at a certain place, and no speaking takes place.

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« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2013, 03:41:PM »
I don't want to be a fly in the ointment here, but I find it frustrating that you are implying what I am saying is in hindsight.
"come quickly your sister has gone berserk, and has the gun". Now how clear is that.
I will just call Julie, then two calls to police stations before I dress. Hindsight has nothing to do with it.
I can comfortable state that I would have dialled 999 [why didn't Ralph?], or would have responded to the call. Hindsight has nothing to do with this Caroline IMO.

Hi Buddy, Sheila had gone 'crazy' on previous occasions, she hadn't been particularly violent in the past so why should Jeremy think it would end in 4 murders? It's in hindsight because you/we know the outcome and he couldn't have known what would happen at the time.

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« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2013, 03:43:PM »
Hi Buddy  please keep me right here was it logged by the police that Ralph phoned them and also that he phoned Jeremy.  I seem to think some confusion exists here or maybe just me.

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« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2013, 03:47:PM »
Hi Buddy, Sheila had gone 'crazy' on previous occasions, she hadn't been particularly violent in the past so why should Jeremy think it would end in 4 murders? It's in hindsight because you/we know the outcome and he couldn't have known what would happen at the time.
Hi Caroline, but not to the extent where Ralph had said "please come quickly"

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« Reply #119 on: April 17, 2013, 03:49:PM »
Hi Buddy  please keep me right here was it logged by the police that Ralph phoned them and also that he phoned Jeremy.  I seem to think some confusion exists here or maybe just me.

No, Susan, if the police had evidence of Neville's call to both themselves and Jeremy, Jeremy would be a free man.