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Offline lookout

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #210 on: March 02, 2013, 11:18:PM »
And if I'd just committed five murders,,,I'd have damn well beaten DB in getting that silencer from the cupboard less than 3 days later and dumping the thing.

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #211 on: March 02, 2013, 11:19:PM »
Nobody with any sense sh*ts on their own doorstep.

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« Reply #212 on: March 02, 2013, 11:25:PM »
Nobody with any sense sh*ts on their own doorstep.
I dont follow that one lookout?

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #213 on: March 02, 2013, 11:25:PM »
We'll never know if Sheila asked Jeremy that night,to show her how to load the rifle and that would have been his reason for doing so,,with nothing sinister on his part.   
Sheila had known how to use it,,but not to load it.

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« Reply #214 on: March 02, 2013, 11:36:PM »
Not everyone Alias, "No one considered that her evidence alone convicted Bamber. I for one think also the jury thought julie not to be a credible witness?

This is true Ralf, the jury weren't convinced by JM's testimony which is why they asked to hear the silencer evidence again.

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« Reply #215 on: March 02, 2013, 11:42:PM »
Altrincham,Cheshire lookout,a wealthy area surrounded not so far away by pockets of poverty and deprivation.

Cheshire???  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. I'd hate to think how naive you think I am, I'm from the Sunderland area but I swear I have never owned a whippet - although I have been spotted once or twice in a flat cap but wouldn't allow one near my head that wasn't the finest herringbone tweed!!  ;) ;)  ;D ;D

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« Reply #216 on: March 03, 2013, 12:25:AM »
This is true Ralf, the jury weren't convinced by JM's testimony which is why they asked to hear the silencer evidence again.
Thats how i see it Caroline, my personnal view There are lots of conflicting bits of evidence, any one of which is capable of making you think, firstly "Oh yes, he did" and secondly "Oh, no he didn't."
One fact that everyone seems sure of is that there was a lot of confusion on the day itself - hardly surprisingly - and that the police investigation was very badly mishandled.  In the end Jeremy was convicted and was eventually told that he will serve his whole life in jail. Is the conviction safe? He is the only person in the country serving a whole-life sentence who has constantly protested his innocence.
The thing that always grabs me about this case is that I absolutely hate any kind of miscarriage of justice, and that's what haunts me about it too.
If I think back to 1985, I was twenty-six If I think of all the years - - all the things that have happened - - all the places I've been - - so much of my life has happened since that time.
I think that many people would say that the ages between twenty-four and fifty are the prime of life.
It would be horrible to think that Jeremy has missed this part of his life due to some miscarriage of justice.  I don't, of course, know whether or not there has been a miscarriage of justice here.
I think it's impossible for any of us to imagine how that would feel if there is?  Me i will be leaving the forum soon, i feel i have made some really good friends and i hope i have never upset anyone with my posts.  I admire everyone on this forum how they conduct themselves and hope it is kept that way and not become personnal and respect others views, this is mainly due to good moderation.  Just for the record me 70/30 guilt, mum 100 percent innocent dtitched up big time, uncle same view as mum, dad and wife just listen.  my special regards pete

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #217 on: March 03, 2013, 01:08:AM »
Thats how i see it Caroline, my personnal view There are lots of conflicting bits of evidence, any one of which is capable of making you think, firstly "Oh yes, he did" and secondly "Oh, no he didn't."
One fact that everyone seems sure of is that there was a lot of confusion on the day itself - hardly surprisingly - and that the police investigation was very badly mishandled.  In the end Jeremy was convicted and was eventually told that he will serve his whole life in jail. Is the conviction safe? He is the only person in the country serving a whole-life sentence who has constantly protested his innocence.
The thing that always grabs me about this case is that I absolutely hate any kind of miscarriage of justice, and that's what haunts me about it too.
If I think back to 1985, I was twenty-six If I think of all the years - - all the things that have happened - - all the places I've been - - so much of my life has happened since that time.
I think that many people would say that the ages between twenty-four and fifty are the prime of life.
It would be horrible to think that Jeremy has missed this part of his life due to some miscarriage of justice.  I don't, of course, know whether or not there has been a miscarriage of justice here.
I think it's impossible for any of us to imagine how that would feel if there is?  Me i will be leaving the forum soon, i feel i have made some really good friends and i hope i have never upset anyone with my posts.  I admire everyone on this forum how they conduct themselves and hope it is kept that way and not become personnal and respect others views, this is mainly due to good moderation.  Just for the record me 70/30 guilt, mum 100 percent innocent dtitched up big time, uncle same view as mum, dad and wife just listen.  my special regards pete

Hi Ralf,

Great post!! I think which ever side of the fence you reside, you couldn't argue with those words!! You are a valued member and I hope you'll stay - we need more members like yourself!!

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #218 on: March 03, 2013, 09:17:AM »
Morning dear ralf

just read you are going to leave the forum. :'(  Sorry I just cannot allow that and I will refuse to sign your discharge papers you will have to hang in with the rest of us I am afraid.  You are needed on the forum as you give a very balanced view from both sides of the fence and the manner you present yourself is second to none.  Love you. :-*  Susanx

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #219 on: March 03, 2013, 09:20:AM »
Morning Caroline

I'm from Yorkshire and very rarely seen without my flat cap and whippet at my side ;D ;) ;)

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #220 on: March 03, 2013, 09:24:AM »
Morning lookout

if you had committed the murders at WHF you would not have gone to the trouble to try and hide the said silencer at the back of the cupboard you would have dumped it along with all your blood stained clothes (steve's theory is in somebody's dustbin).

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #221 on: March 03, 2013, 09:31:AM »
And if I'd just committed five murders,,,I'd have damn well beaten DB in getting that silencer from the cupboard less than 3 days later and dumping the thing.
And I wouldn't have given the keys to the relatives if I had anything to hide. Or would have wanted to "make sure" that there was nothing incriminating left in that house. To my mind those are not the actions of a guilty person?

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #222 on: March 03, 2013, 09:39:AM »
And I wouldn't have given the keys to the relatives if I had anything to hide. Or would have wanted to "make sure" that there was nothing incriminating left in that house. To my mind those are not the actions of a guilty person?


It's the way I see it Lugg.. You'd backtrack all your movements and make doubly sure that there was no incriminating evidence left behind.  Jeremy was never in this situation because he didn't need to be.

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #223 on: March 03, 2013, 09:41:AM »
Ralf,,it's been a pleasure and you'll be missed. I mean that,,,and wish you well. x

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Re: Julie's allegation of a hitman
« Reply #224 on: March 03, 2013, 09:42:AM »
Morning dear ralf

just read you are going to leave the forum. :'(  Sorry I just cannot allow that and I will refuse to sign your discharge papers you will have to hang in with the rest of us I am afraid.  You are needed on the forum as you give a very balanced view from both sides of the fence and the manner you present yourself is second to none.  Love you. :-*  Susanx
Ralf I second everything susie says........please don't go. :'(x