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Re: Who Bled here?
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 06:38:PM »
I'm reading it Bridget  ;).....I have seen this document before and to be fair I can tare strips off it from start to finish...I could have done better with a chemistry set from Toys 'R' Us..... :D :D :D :D :D

Where did me wring come form lol

Ok then, I dunno why the defence didnt just ask you then? ;)
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 06:45:PM »
Ok then, I dunno why the defence didnt just ask you then? ;)

Beats me why!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 06:54:PM »
Beats me why!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

But, he makes his final diagnosis based on the fact that the rifle had a sound moderator attached. I am amazed that he did not have sufficient time to make any further analysis. Maybe he was a busy man?  His advice was not so concrete really was it....He only answered a specific question put to him by the CPS...I think his analysis is incomplete...it does not address the whole picture.  :-\ ;) :) :) :)

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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 07:02:PM »
But, he makes his final diagnosis based on the fact that the rifle had a sound moderator attached. I am amazed that he did not have sufficient time to make any further analysis. Maybe he was a busy man?  His advice was not so concrete really was it....He only answered a specific question put to him by the CPS...I think his analysis is incomplete...it does not address the whole picture.  :-\ ;) :) :) :)

He was engaged by the defence, not the CPS. It seems clear from his letter that the issue wasn't so much time, as the money required to pay for more time. He seems to be saying that he'd already done work in excess of that which he'd agreed to do. The defence could have paid him to do more, but he appears to be telling them not to bother.
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2013, 07:09:PM »
He was engaged by the defence, not the CPS. It seems clear from his letter that the issue wasn't so much time, as the money required to pay for more time. He seems to be saying that he'd already done work in excess of that which he'd agreed to do. The defence could have paid him to do more, but he appears to be telling them not to bother.

So who is Nick Robinson, any ideas?   :-\ ;) ;) ;) ;)

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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2013, 07:15:PM »
So who is Nick Robinson, any ideas?   :-\ ;) ;) ;) ;)

I don't think it has nothing to do with the CPS or the defence....Fleet street more than likely. Or someone who is writing a book...or doing a piece for a magazine.  I might be wrong but why would a publisher be asking these questions and why would that said publisher have crime scene photographs?   :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 07:19:PM »
I don't think it has nothing to do with the CPS or the defence....Fleet street more than likely. Or someone who is writing a book...or doing a piece for a magazine.  I might be wrong but why would a publisher be asking these questions and why would that said publisher have crime scene photographs?   :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

This letter to JB predates the report by more than two years, maybe the publisher was paying in return for an exclusive.

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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2013, 07:26:PM »
This letter to JB predates the report by more than two years, maybe the publisher was paying in return for an exclusive.



That means nothing though Bridget. That heading FAO MR ES could have been sent to him for many reasons....Why fax it? why not send him the original? I think its suspicious...did Ewan ever use the document? Why would Ewan submit a question relating to the moderator being on the rifle? Why would a publisher pay for it? I know what you mean about a scoop, but Ewan, was working in defence of Jeremy not against him..and to me it raises more questions...Was there a scoop? I don't think there was...was there?   :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2013, 07:54:PM »
That means nothing though Bridget. That heading FAO MR ES could have been sent to him for many reasons....Why fax it? why not send him the original? I think its suspicious...did Ewan ever use the document? Why would Ewan submit a question relating to the moderator being on the rifle? Why would a publisher pay for it? I know what you mean about a scoop, but Ewan, was working in defence of Jeremy not against him..and to me it raises more questions...Was there a scoop? I don't think there was...was there?   :) :) :) :)

Are you seriously trying to argue that MacDonnell was not engaged by JB or someone acting on his behalf or with his agreement?
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2013, 08:33:PM »
Well well well.....would you believe it.  Bridget you are a darling....I have found the connection and you would not believe it....

Right... Robinson publishers....on Shepherd Street published Roger Wilkes book....WOW! Now that is no coincidence is it? The plot thickens.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2013, 08:41:PM »
Well well well.....would you believe it.  Bridget you are a darling....I have found the connection and you would not believe it....

Right... Robinson publishers....on Shepherd Street published Roger Wilkes book....WOW! Now that is no coincidence is it? The plot thickens.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The one I have is published by Penguin, but there's an acknowledgement to a Nick Robinson "for his encouragement and guidance".
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2013, 08:45:PM »
The one I have is published by Penguin, but there's an acknowledgement to a Nick Robinson "for his encouragement and guidance".

Soooooooooooooo Could it be that Robinson assisted Wilkes in his book then sent the said forensic document to Ewan by fax....


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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2013, 08:46:PM »
Soooooooooooooo Could it be that Robinson assisted Wilkes in his book then sent the said forensic document to Ewan by fax....

So if that said document was produced by the CPS it could have been  Ewan that gave it too them.... :'(

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« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2013, 08:52:PM »
There's a description of what happened on pages 412 - 414 of Wilkes book, basically, JB wanted to commission Macdonnell and did a deal with the Sunday Sport to raise money (wouldn't have thought that was possible). The money was shared between himself and a go between but JBs share soon ran out. Wilkes then did a deal with JB whereby he would have access to the defence files in return for commissioning the report to JBs specification.
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2013, 08:53:PM »
So if that said document was produced by the CPS it could have been  Ewan that gave it too them.... :'(

I don't think the report has ever been used by anyone has it? There's no mention of it in the appeal decision.
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