Are Steve_uk and starryian helping the police?

[lookout]

How many hours later what?

It hasn't. It's just a change in perspective caused by the photographer moving position.

By comparison of pics ( how many hours later )

[Bridget]

By comparison of pics ( how many hours later )

If in doubt make it up?

[lookout]

If in doubt make it up?

Yes,,,you do that.!

[Bridget]

Yes,,,you do that.!

It's not me who, without any basis whatsoever, is asserting that there are several hours between photos.

[Lugg]

Martin seems to have a problem with the fact that Steve's opinion is closer to Ian's than his own, and what that has to do with them helping the police is anyone's guess. Anyway, with regards the 'oxygenated blood' theory, it's worth pointing out again I think, that the 'oxygenated blood' photo is just a blow up from photo 27, which was taken at the same time as photo 28, and which quite clearly shows blood leaking from Sheila's mouth which must have come from the same gun shot, and which is so dry that it is fact cracking and peeling.

Oxygenated blood photo:



Blow up from photo 27:



Photo 28:



Blow up from photo 28:

Yes the last photo shows the blood from the mouth cracking and dry. This can happen if the person's face is still warm. However the blood from the neck shows the blood (imho) as flowing for some reason?

[Bridget]

Yes the last photo shows the blood from the mouth cracking and dry. This can happen if the person's face is still warm. However the blood from the neck shows the blood (imho) as flowing for some reason?

The blood from the mouth comes from the second wound (the one under the chin) which was undeniably instantly fatal. It's "flowing" because it's leaking out through the hole in the bottom of her mouth through gravity.

[Alias]

I have had the thought that Ian and Steve are one and the same. They both write fiction.

[Jane]

I have had the thought that Ian and Steve are one and the same. They both write fiction.

Steve is certainly an immovable force when it comes to believing Jeremy to be guilty.

[Alias]

Steve is certainly an immovable force when it comes to believing Jeremy to be guilty.

In my opinion he is no better than pros who make up things to make evidence fit into their beliefs. He makes a lot up. Sorry, Steve, but you do.

[Jane]

In my opinion he is no better than pros who make up things to make evidence fit into their beliefs. He makes a lot up. Sorry, Steve, but you do.

Alias, we are very aware of Steve's propensity for "illumination" and "embroidery" but he is forgiven much. We can always rest assured that when he can't/won't answer he changes direction and says something quite unrelated to point being made. What I am not certain of is whether he is serious or just being provocative for the sake of it :D :D

[packagebuilder]

 lol  hes part of the red crew!! i am 100% sure he is!! hello Eric

[Patti]

The blood from the mouth comes from the second wound (the one under the chin) which was undeniably instantly fatal. It's "flowing" because it's leaking out through the hole in the bottom of her mouth through gravity.

A coupe of things to bare in mind, is that the raid team entered at 7:30

The photographs were taken just under two hours later just after 10am and there were also a 2nd set taken in the main bedroom later on. 

One of the reports from the raid team said her blood was leaking, not all of the raid team entered the bedroom and saw Sheila. 

However,  this would mean that she would have been shot after Jeremy had arrived with the police. 

If she had been shot before 3am all the blood would have been cracked even that on her neck, but it wasn't....

The only other thing I can add, is the partially digested food and the fact the poor lass looked remarkably clean....So, if she had gone to her mother, then why did she not help her or hug her?  If she had done this then she would have her mums blood all over her.....

[Jane]

A coupe of things to bare in mind, is that the raid team entered at 7:30

The photographs were taken just under two hours later just after 10am and there were also a 2nd set taken in the main bedroom later on. 

One of the reports from the raid team said her blood was leaking, not all of the raid team entered the bedroom and saw Sheila. 

However,  this would mean that she would have been shot after Jeremy had arrived with the police. 

If she had been shot before 3am all the blood would have been cracked even that on her neck, but it wasn't....

The only other thing I can add, is the partially digested food and the fact the poor lass looked remarkably clean....So, if she had gone to her mother, then why did she not help her or hug her?  If she had done this then she would have her mums blood all over her.....

She also looked too peaceful to have been terrified just prior to death.

[Bridget]

A coupe of things to bare in mind, is that the raid team entered at 7:30

The photographs were taken just under two hours later just after 10am and there were also a 2nd set taken in the main bedroom later on. 

One of the reports from the raid team said her blood was leaking, not all of the raid team entered the bedroom and saw Sheila. 

I followed you so far..

However,  this would mean that she would have been shot after Jeremy had arrived with the police. 

And then you lost me. The blood is just seeping out of the wound through gravity, likely a steady trickle which would keep the area from drying completely.

If she had been shot before 3am all the blood would have been cracked even that on her neck, but it wasn't....

I disagree, see above, nevertheless I believe the blood is a lot drier than it appears to be in that enhanced 'oxygenated blood' photo.

The only other thing I can add, is the partially digested food and the fact the poor lass looked remarkably clean....So, if she had gone to her mother, then why did she not help her or hug her?  If she had done this then she would have her mums blood all over her.....

Who knows, horror? Maybe she didn't get time before JB reappeared?

[Bridget]

She also looked too peaceful to have been terrified just prior to death.

What makes you think she'd look anything other than peaceful? She's dead and her muscles have therefore relaxed.