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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #225 on: February 08, 2013, 03:13:PM »
Hi Caroline  Nickos could charm the birds out of the trees ;D ;D ;D with his dark brown eyes and olive toned Greek skin slick black hair I am going again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #226 on: February 08, 2013, 03:20:PM »
Ha, ha!! My head is not so easily turned by these silver tongued foxes - before long they will have you believe in marigolds, wet suits and bicycle rides by the light of the moon!!  ;D ;D ;D ;)

Hi Caroline, am I a silvered tongued fox?   :-*

I certainly won't pomote the strories you suggest above, as I don't believe in them either.

But if I can get McGorgeous to stray down my path then I see that as a result  ;D
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« Reply #227 on: February 08, 2013, 03:40:PM »
Hello my Nickos

I was just wondering do you perchance look anything like Stavros Flatley and more to the point can you dance like him.  If your answer is in the affirmative I will stray down your path anytime :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #228 on: February 08, 2013, 03:51:PM »
Hello my Nickos

I was just wondering do you perchance look anything like Stavros Flatley and more to the point can you dance like him.  If your answer is in the affirmative I will stray down your path anytime :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #229 on: February 08, 2013, 03:57:PM »
Hello my Nickos

I was just wondering do you perchance look anything like Stavros Flatley and more to the point can you dance like him.  If your answer is in the affirmative I will stray down your path anytime :-* :-* :-*

Stravros Flatley - where are your standards  ;) ;D

http://stavrosflatleyofficial.com/

In truth, I am more of Scandinavian decent – tall, slim, fair hair, gsoh, non smoker  ;D
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« Reply #230 on: February 08, 2013, 04:01:PM »
Stravros Flatley - where are your standards  ;) ;D

http://stavrosflatleyofficial.com/

In truth, I am more of Scandinavian decent – tall, slim, fair hair, gsoh, non smoker  ;D

Exactly what I was thinking!! See we do agree on some things!!  ;D ;D

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« Reply #231 on: February 08, 2013, 04:03:PM »
Hi Caroline, am I a silvered tongued fox?   :-*

I certainly won't pomote the strories you suggest above, as I don't believe in them either.

But if I can get McGorgeous to stray down my path then I see that as a result  ;D



Hello Nickos. You speak of Sheila being anxious. I don't see her as being so. I believe she HAD been. I think during that time of silent withdrawal she was seeing/imagining where her life was likely to go and it MAY have terrified her. I think she may have embarked on a certain course of action with icy, emotionless calm.

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« Reply #232 on: February 08, 2013, 04:05:PM »
Nickos I bet you are not a non drinker though.  I just love Stavros Flatley ;D I am more like Nora Batty from Last of the Summer Wine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D there is your answer to my taste in men. ;D  Row coming for me for going off topic again. 8)  Hide Susan hide.

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« Reply #233 on: February 08, 2013, 04:23:PM »
Nickos I bet you are not a non drinker though.  I just love Stavros Flatley ;D I am more like Nora Batty from Last of the Summer Wine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D there is your answer to my taste in men. ;D  Row coming for me for going off topic again. 8)  Hide Susan hide.



HIDE, SUSAN. HIDE >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #234 on: February 08, 2013, 04:25:PM »
Exactly what I was thinking!! See we do agree on some things!!  ;D ;D

I bet we would agree on a lot of things, but when it comed to JB........  ;)

I do try to evaulate the case, not the people debating. I try not to make it personal, but it's human nature for birds of a feather..... (Humans, birds... I hope I'm making sense  ???)
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Re: She's got the gun
« Reply #235 on: February 08, 2013, 04:50:PM »


Hello Nickos. You speak of Sheila being anxious. I don't see her as being so. I believe she HAD been. I think during that time of silent withdrawal she was seeing/imagining where her life was likely to go and it MAY have terrified her. I think she may have embarked on a certain course of action with icy, emotionless calm.

“Anxious” is my slant on the term Nevill is supposed to have use. I believe the terms crazy / berserk have been levelled at Sheila on the night.

Not only can I not see Sheila casually reloading the magazine twice, I cannot see Sheila reloading the magazine at all.

What reason did Sheila have to kill Nevill in such an protracted way.

Sheila has been accused of;

1) Shooting Nevill 3/4 times in the Bedroom (2 chin, 1 shoulder 1 arm) 1 shot possibly on the stairs – all hit
2) Then moving to the kitchen to beat Nevill either before or after delivering 4 kill shots
3) Or Nevill was uninjured by the time he got to the kitchen, suggesting 8 shots were delivered to Nevill in the kitchen  with a beating occurring before or after the shots
4) Sheila has then got time to heat up the rifle and burn Nevill 3 times
5) Sheila has also washed and changed
6) Shot herself once in the neck (non fatal)
7) Made her way upstairs and shot herself again

To me at least, an emotionally disturbed person would, if presented with the option of a rifle with 10 bullets in the magazine, shoot her children 4 shots each and then kill herself with one shot.

If Sheila had intended to kill them all, I see a heated moment when all 10 bullets are fired and an emotional wreck, now finding the gun empty, would collapse in a heap.

But no, this hunter woman is almost indestructible in the way she methodically kills/beats them all.

A man did it!  imo  ;)
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« Reply #236 on: February 08, 2013, 05:06:PM »
Nickos,,then why,after 27 years,is Jeremy still protesting his innocence ? He'd have given before 5 years  into his sentence and would probably have topped himself at the prospect of never coming out of prison.

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« Reply #237 on: February 08, 2013, 05:24:PM »
“Anxious” is my slant on the term Nevill is supposed to have use. I believe the terms crazy / berserk have been levelled at Sheila on the night.

Not only can I not see Sheila casually reloading the magazine twice, I cannot see Sheila reloading the magazine at all.

What reason did Sheila have to kill Nevill in such an protracted way.

Sheila has been accused of;

1) Shooting Nevill 3/4 times in the Bedroom (2 chin, 1 shoulder 1 arm) 1 shot possibly on the stairs – all hit
2) Then moving to the kitchen to beat Nevill either before or after delivering 4 kill shots
3) Or Nevill was uninjured by the time he got to the kitchen, suggesting 8 shots were delivered to Nevill in the kitchen  with a beating occurring before or after the shots
4) Sheila has then got time to heat up the rifle and burn Nevill 3 times
5) Sheila has also washed and changed
6) Shot herself once in the neck (non fatal)
7) Made her way upstairs and shot herself again

To me at least, an emotionally disturbed person would, if presented with the option of a rifle with 10 bullets in the magazine, shoot her children 4 shots each and then kill herself with one shot.

If Sheila had intended to kill them all, I see a heated moment when all 10 bullets are fired and an emotional wreck, now finding the gun empty, would collapse in a heap.

But no, this hunter woman is almost indestructible in the way she methodically kills/beats them all.

A man did it!  imo  ;)


Nickos, I rather think you are looking at this from an intellectual viewpoint. Sheila would not have been. Having been deposited at the farm by Colin who had told her of his new love, she may have wondered if she would ever be allowed to leave. It may well have been Colin's new romance which prompted a discussion about the boys' future. It may be that she saw herself losing control of her boys and contol of her life. All I'm doing is offering possibilities.

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« Reply #238 on: February 08, 2013, 05:29:PM »
“Anxious” is my slant on the term Nevill is supposed to have use. I believe the terms crazy / berserk have been levelled at Sheila on the night.

Not only can I not see Sheila casually reloading the magazine twice, I cannot see Sheila reloading the magazine at all.

What reason did Sheila have to kill Nevill in such an protracted way.

Sheila has been accused of;

1) Shooting Nevill 3/4 times in the Bedroom (2 chin, 1 shoulder 1 arm) 1 shot possibly on the stairs – all hit
2) Then moving to the kitchen to beat Nevill either before or after delivering 4 kill shots
3) Or Nevill was uninjured by the time he got to the kitchen, suggesting 8 shots were delivered to Nevill in the kitchen  with a beating occurring before or after the shots
4) Sheila has then got time to heat up the rifle and burn Nevill 3 times
5) Sheila has also washed and changed
6) Shot herself once in the neck (non fatal)
7) Made her way upstairs and shot herself again

To me at least, an emotionally disturbed person would, if presented with the option of a rifle with 10 bullets in the magazine, shoot her children 4 shots each and then kill herself with one shot.

If Sheila had intended to kill them all, I see a heated moment when all 10 bullets are fired and an emotional wreck, now finding the gun empty, would collapse in a heap.

But no, this hunter woman is almost indestructible in the way she methodically kills/beats them all.

A man did it!  imo  ;)

She only had two adults to take care of really. Neville was suffering from a bad back and was quiet that evening - perhaps he was in pain? Back pain can be crippling and would have made Neville a far easier opponent. If JB were responsible, he would have had 3 adults to contend with!!

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« Reply #239 on: February 08, 2013, 05:30:PM »
She only had two adults to take care of really. Neville was suffering from a bad back and was quiet that evening - perhaps he was in pain? Back pain can be crippling and would have made Neville a far easier opponent. If JB were responsible, he would have had 3 adults to contend with!!
Another very good point.