The case of Madeleine McCann

[Cambridgecutie]

I don't have one - it's a real mystery. Amaral's theory has some merit, could have been Bruekner (but they don't seem to have any hard evidence), or someone like him. I don't see the Tranmers as credible candidates - for one thing what have they done with her?

If you don't see the Tranmers as credible in part because you do not see what they did with MM then surely this follows for the McCanns and CB too?

How can anyone take Amaral seriously based on the following:

PF - First interviewed 20th Aug 2007

CAT - Interjected herself as a witness when returned to UK.  Was interviewed on 8th May 2007.  She was then interviewed again by Leic police on 22nd April 2008.

CT - Never interviewed

PF was directly above the McCann apartment when MM went missing! 

[Cambridgecutie]

Who is claiming that? This is the witness who likely saw Bruckner at the apartment acting suspiciously.


"CT'Okay.

DC1485'Where should we start.

CT'At the head.

DC1485'the head.

CT'Because it was what I saw first.

DC1485'yes.

CT'Humm... he was blonde, with a lot of hair, very short, not like mine but a little more, humm... but not like a footballer, do you know what I mean' A style close to shaven. Very short, blonde, the head was very sculptured. The shape of the head was very sculptured, more oval shaped.

DC1485'Yes.

CT'And, humm... then I believe I saw him wearing a blue-grey T-shirt, it was not dark blue, more of a pallid colour and it was, humm... a type of blue with short sleeves, humm... but I did not see anything below, I did not see the trousers or shoes or anything else, only the top part and he would have, I would say'humm, when looking from above, he was not short, I would say he was about a 1'78, about medium height. He was not thing nor was he muscular. So he was of average stature. I would say he was European but not Portuguese. He was not dark and, he was not short, but I would say that he looked Scandinavian if you will, because he was very light and could have been British or Scandinavian. Even though I was looking upwards, he had big eyes, there is nothing else. He did not have tattoos, nothing like this, humm'a person of common appearance, it was his furtiveness that called my attention, humm, no, I can't'

DC1485'Could you give him an age'

CT'Yes, I believe so, I would say that he was between, oh he was not old, 30 to 35, I don't believe that he was older than this."

What evidence exists that she observed anyone as she describes above other than herself?

Why didn't the police interview PF and CT to see if they could add anything?

In her WS said:

DC1485'It seems to me that you would recognise this individual were you to see him again'

CT'Yes, I would recognize him. Don't ask me why but I know that I would.


Has she gone on record and said yes this is the guy I saw?!

[Cambridgecutie]

Part 2 of the This Much Is True Crime series: https://youtu.be/t87GsOUlqik

But how would CB know MM was being left alone in the unlocked apartment night after night? 

The person(s) who abducted MM knew she was being left alone in the unlocked apartment night after night and this knowledge was only known to a handful of people. 

[Cambridgecutie]

I finished reading CAT's statement and mrs Fenns last night, very little to be gained from them to be honest, just the suspicious blond man and the fact Maddie was crying for over an hour one night.
Yes, you do make a valid point about the Tranmers studying the McCanns routine, but from where? They weren't in mrs Fenns apartment in the evenings were they? Or were they, and mrs Fenn was involved too? If not, did they skulk about outside in the shadows? Which side of the McCanns apartment would the Tranmers watch, surely both, front door and patio at the back?
And there was also members of the Tapas 7 that the Tranmers would need to watch out for checking their kids too! But!!! the abductor/s wouldn't need a large window of opportunity to carry out the abduction I suppose?
One other thing, it seems a bit risky to say the least for the Tranmers to park the getaway vehicle in a car park directly across from the Tapas bar only metres away, and obviously the route to the car park from the McCanns apartment would be the same route that the Tapas 9 would use to check on their children, yes?
Still, maybe the Tranmers thought they could monitor the Tapas 9 from the car park, and once they saw Kate or Gerry return to the bar from a check they made their move?

How many more times do I have to say this...the scent dogs may well have been scenting/tracking MM's scent in part from her legitimate walking about the day she went missing. The main point with the scent dogs aka search and rescue is that they did not alert at a building, track down to the beach or some remote area.  All of which suggests MM was placed inside a car nearby to 5A.

CAT claims they had a hire car for the duration of their trip.  When they visited PF they probably parked in the car park outside the bedroom where MM was sleeping.  All CAT needed to do was enter the unlocked patio doors, walk through the apartment, open the shutter/window as a decoy, open what was effectively the front door, scoop up MM straight into the car and close the apartment door behind her.  Would all have taken around 60 - 120 seconds max. 

We only have CAT's claim of a 'suspcious man' which imo was a decoy much the same way as the opening of the MM's bedroom shutter and window.

Do you not think PF would have discussed with CAT the leaving of the children night after night in the unlocked apartment and MM crying for 1 and a 1/4 hours before her parents arrived back?  It is not what parents do.  It is an aberration and worthy of comment hence PF phoned her friend late at night to discuss the situation. 

I do not believe PF was involved. 

[snow66!]

 ha! very good, Cutie, very good!

[Jonathan]

If you don't see the Tranmers as credible in part because you do not see what they did with MM then surely this follows for the McCanns and CB too?

Certainly for me the difficulty in disposing of a body when on holiday in an unfamiliar environment is what puts me off most about the McCanns as suspects. A paedophile killer local to the area might have disposed of a body almost any trace - like Mark Bridger.

As for the Tranmers are they paedophile killers? If not where is Madeleine?

As with your theories about WHF you seem to to pride yourself on coming up with ideas noone else has thought of - without explaining them properly - making it clear why noone else has thought of them.

[Cambridgecutie]

ha! very good, Cutie, very good!

What's very good?

[Cambridgecutie]

Certainly for me the difficulty in disposing of a body when on holiday in an unfamiliar environment is what puts me off most about the McCanns as suspects. A paedophile killer local to the area might have disposed of a body almost any trace - like Mark Bridger.

As for the Tranmers are they paedophile killers? If not where is Madeleine?

But MB abducted AJ from the street.  How would CB know MM was in the unlocked apartment alone?

No one knows the motive. 

[snow66!]

What's very good?

Oh that was in response to you saying I wouldn't know a red herring if it slapped me in the face, Cutie! The rest of the reply must have disappeared!

[Steve_uk]

But MB abducted AJ from the street.  How would CB know MM was in the unlocked apartment alone?

No one knows the motive.

Remember he was a burglar as well as a paedophile. He may have been looking for valuables, passports, anything he could flog to sustain his lifestyle, and came across the children by chance. The geography of the apartment meant it was the easiest of all the Tapas 7 accommodation to break into.

[handymanz]

Epstein, handyman?
What do you think of the Ghislaine Maxwell e-fit?

Cutie has pretty much answered this. Theories about the e-fit were getting out of hand, the Podesta brothers, Ghislaine Maxwell etc.
Lucky, I visited the Algarve in the mid 80s not 2000s the e-fit could have fitted me as well. And as Cutie says Maddie doesn't tick any of Epstein's boxes.

[snow66!]

Cutie has pretty much answered this. Theories about the e-fit were getting out of hand, the Podesta brothers, Ghislaine Maxwell etc.
Lucky, I visited the Algarve in the mid 80s not 2000s the e-fit could have fitted me as well. And as Cutie says Maddie doesn't tick any of Epstein's boxes.

Ok, handyman, its just that Maddie gets a brief mention in the Epstein files!

[handymanz]

Bit of a stretch to think 2 well educated parents left their 3 children, all under the age of 4, night after night in an unlocked holiday apartment but it happened! 

No one knows the motive for the abduction.  It is completely wrong to assume it was sexual.

If it wasn't sexual or pedo related, one can only surmise what the Tranmers were thinking at the time.

On the drive back to their hotel. Carole says "hey Chris I'm really worried about that poor little girl in the apartment beneath auntie Pam's. What with all her crying going unattended and that weird guy leaving the apartment"
Chris says "should we go back and see if she's crying and been neglected, or should we notify the Police and report a case of child neglect"
"Let's go back if it gets late, we can always stay at auntie Pam's for the night"

The Tranmers park the car outside the apartment, notice all the comings and goings and think something isn't right here, and make a rash decision to 'rescue' the girl.

Then the proverbial hits the fan, and they don't know what to do with Maddie so they off load her somewhere to be raised by someone else.
Rescuing a child and then killing her doesn't add up.
Only a pedo would kill the child because a child is thought of being a disposable item after gratification.

[snow66!]

Part 2 of the This Much Is True Crime series: https://youtu.be/t87GsOUlqik

Thanks, Steve!
So there is evidence against Breuckner then, but mean time its inadmissible!

[handymanz]

Who is claiming that? This is the witness who likely saw Bruckner at the apartment acting suspiciously.


"CT'Okay.

DC1485'Where should we start.

CT'At the head.

DC1485'the head.

CT'Because it was what I saw first.

DC1485'yes.

CT'Humm... he was blonde, with a lot of hair, very short, not like mine but a little more, humm... but not like a footballer, do you know what I mean' A style close to shaven. Very short, blonde, the head was very sculptured. The shape of the head was very sculptured, more oval shaped.

DC1485'Yes.

CT'And, humm... then I believe I saw him wearing a blue-grey T-shirt, it was not dark blue, more of a pallid colour and it was, humm... a type of blue with short sleeves, humm... but I did not see anything below, I did not see the trousers or shoes or anything else, only the top part and he would have, I would say'humm, when looking from above, he was not short, I would say he was about a 1'78, about medium height. He was not thing nor was he muscular. So he was of average stature. I would say he was European but not Portuguese. He was not dark and, he was not short, but I would say that he looked Scandinavian if you will, because he was very light and could have been British or Scandinavian. Even though I was looking upwards, he had big eyes, there is nothing else. He did not have tattoos, nothing like this, humm'a person of common appearance, it was his furtiveness that called my attention, humm, no, I can't'

DC1485'Could you give him an age'

CT'Yes, I believe so, I would say that he was between, oh he was not old, 30 to 35, I don't believe that he was older than this."

I'm surprised that those wanting to get CB to face the music in the UK haven't jumped on this.
Of all the possible suspects CB is the closest fit to CAT's description.