The case of Madeleine McCann

[handymanz]

This is quite an informative video that picks apart Carole Tranmer's statement. It also provides a good layout of the apartment complex.
No mention is made of any contradictions in Tranmer's comments about the Tapas bar itself.
He even mentions Tranmer's ties to the Royal family which he said he may discuss in a future video.

https://youtu.be/A30sM_q4GzI

[snow66!]

This is quite an informative video that picks apart Carole Tranmer's statement. It also provides a good layout of the apartment complex.
No mention is made of any contradictions in Tranmer's comments about the Tapas bar itself.
He even mentions Tranmer's ties to the Royal family which he said he may discuss in a future video.

https://youtu.be/A30sM_q4GzI

Thanks, handyman!

[Cambridgecutie]

So you're theory regarding Madeleine McCann is that instead of adopting, the Tranmers decided to abduct Maddie and raise her as their own due to the fact they thought she was being neglected?
Or, one or both of the Tranmers knew the McCanns routine and simply abducted Maddie for some nefarious reason?
You make a big point about what the abductor/s may have done once the police made public Maddie's eye fleck! Well, if the Tranmers abducted her to bring up and love as their own it is hard to imagine they could simply 'dispose' of her once the eye defect was disclosed, however, if they abducted Maddie for nefarious reasons they would probably have intended to cause her demise anyway!
So, the eye defect would only be a problem if the abductor/s intended to keep Maddie alive surely?
Still, there is no telling what someone would be capable of who could abduct a child in the first place, I mean you cant be thinking straight to put it mildly, no matter what the reason may be?

Maybe the Tranmers were not eligible to adopt.  Maybe they tried and failed.  Maybe they hated children and just wanted one to abuse in some way.  I have no idea.  All I know for sure is that they knew MM was being left alone every night in the unlocked apartment and the parents were at the TB.  They also knew on one occasion MM was crying for over an hour until her parents returned.  They may have viewed this as neglect.  What would you think?  I honestly do not know what was going through the McCanns minds that they thought it was ok to leave 3 children under the age of 4 completely unsupervised in an unlocked holiday apartment.  They didn't even have a baby monitor set up like one of the other couples.  The person(s) who abducted MM knew:

- The McCanns were going to the TB every eve around the same time 7.30pm ish.
- They knew the McCanns were leaving via the patio doors which can't be locked from outside.
- They knew the children were left alone unsupervised and if they thought about it that in all probability there was no baby monitor given MM was left crying for about 1 1/4 hours.  And if they had a baby monitor there would be no need to carry out checks as you can see and hear what's going on from a distance. Albeit they are designed for parents to monitor babies/toddlers when they're sleeping in neighbouring rooms.

The only person(s) to know the above was PF and the Tranmers.  The Tranmers also had the advanatge of:

- Knowing the layout of the apartment and understanding how the shutters, windows and doors worked.
- Having an aerial view of the layout from the apartment to the TB
- Being a couple ie one abducting and the other acting as a watch
- Having a hire car
- Staying in a hotel around an hours drive away
- They also had a lot of resources: cloak of respectability, money, base in UK and EU, free to roam Schengen

I would say one or both had a very devious mind as to open the shutter and window in an attempt to throw everyone off the scent was a very clever ploy.  I believe they entered through the patio door, scooped up MM and straight out what was effectively the front door leading onto the car park.  Had they not opened the shutter and window they probably thought it would be a bit obvious it was someone who knew the patio door was unlocked as there would be no sign of breaking and entering.  We know there was no actual sign the shutter/window had been forced but the mere fact it was found open was enough to create a lot of noise and throw others off the scent. 

Think about it they are perceived as so untouchable that Mr Chris Tranmer has never even been interviewed as either a suspect or witness despite all concerned knowing he was only meters away from MM shortly before she disappeared. 

[Cambridgecutie]

I did a lot of research on the case over about a 6 month period and I am convinced in my own mind one or both of the Tranmers are involved.

- Sniffer dogs lost MM's scent in the immediate vicinity.  Supports MM entering Tranmer's hire car.
- World-renowned search expert Dr Mark Harrison:

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mark-harrison-mbe

was brought in using state of the art surveillance equipment to survey the area by plane.  Nothing found, which supports MM being moved out of the area via Tranmer's hire car. 

[Cambridgecutie]

This is quite an informative video that picks apart Carole Tranmer's statement. It also provides a good layout of the apartment complex.
No mention is made of any contradictions in Tranmer's comments about the Tapas bar itself.
He even mentions Tranmer's ties to the Royal family which he said he may discuss in a future video.

https://youtu.be/A30sM_q4GzI

Thanks.  I haven't watched yet but will do.  When I see comments like 'Tranmer Man' which I assume is a reference to CAT's claim she saw a dodgy man hanging around I am reminded of PF's wit stat which was taken on 20th Aug 2007 which makes no ref to CAT's claim she saw a dodgy man hanging around.  This 'sighting' was simply an attempt to interject herself as a 'witness' and preempt investigators knocking on their door.  Even then why wouldn't investigators speak with PF and Chris Tranmer to see if they were able to recall anything differently?  Like Steve, they make the assumption the Tranmers are a 'nice' couple visiting an elderly aunt 

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

It shows the state of the investigation in that the person who lived permanently above the McCanns and was in residence throughout their stay was not even interviewed until 20th Aug 2007, some 3 months after the disappearance! 

[snow66!]

Maybe the Tranmers were not eligible to adopt.  Maybe they tried and failed.  Maybe they hated children and just wanted one to abuse in some way.  I have no idea.  All I know for sure is that they knew MM was being left alone every night in the unlocked apartment and the parents were at the TB.  They also knew on one occasion MM was crying for over an hour until her parents returned.  They may have viewed this as neglect.  What would you think?  I honestly do not know what was going through the McCanns minds that they thought it was ok to leave 3 children under the age of 4 completely unsupervised in an unlocked holiday apartment.  They didn't even have a baby monitor set up like one of the other couples.  The person(s) who abducted MM knew:

- The McCanns were going to the TB every eve around the same time 7.30pm ish.
- They knew the McCanns were leaving via the patio doors which can't be locked from outside.
- They knew the children were left alone unsupervised and if they thought about it that in all probability there was no baby monitor given MM was left crying for about 1 1/4 hours.  And if they had a baby monitor there would be no need to carry out checks as you can see and hear what's going on from a distance. Albeit they are designed for parents to monitor babies/toddlers when they're sleeping in neighbouring rooms.

The only person(s) to know the above was PF and the Tranmers.  The Tranmers also had the advanatge of:

- Knowing the layout of the apartment and understanding how the shutters, windows and doors worked.
- Having an aerial view of the layout from the apartment to the TB
- Being a couple ie one abducting and the other acting as a watch
- Having a hire car
- Staying in a hotel around an hours drive away
- They also had a lot of resources: cloak of respectability, money, base in UK and EU, free to roam Schengen

I would say one or both had a very devious mind as to open the shutter and window in an attempt to throw everyone off the scent was a very clever ploy.  I believe they entered through the patio door, scooped up MM and straight out what was effectively the front door leading onto the car park.  Had they not opened the shutter and window they probably thought it would be a bit obvious it was someone who knew the patio door was unlocked as there would be no sign of breaking and entering.  We know there was no actual sign the shutter/window had been forced but the mere fact it was found open was enough to create a lot of noise and throw others off the scent. 

Think about it they are perceived as so untouchable that Mr Chris Tranmer has never even been interviewed as either a suspect or witness despite all concerned knowing he was only meters away from MM shortly before she disappeared.

OK, thanks, Cutie, but up until a few days ago i'd never even heard of the Tranmers, I dont even know where they live, so I will need to watch the likes of the video that handyman posted to get an idea of their involvement in the case before I can comment much.
Is this solely you're scenario, or have others contemplated the Tranmers as suspects?
Did you post you're scenario on the Red forum? If so, what was the reaction?

[Cambridgecutie]

OK, thanks, Cutie, but up until a few days ago i'd never even heard of the Tranmers, I dont even know where they live, so I will need to watch the likes of the video that handyman posted to get an idea of their involvement in the case before I can comment much.
Is this solely you're scenario, or have others contemplated the Tranmers as suspects?
Did you post you're scenario on the Red forum? If so, what was the reaction?

The case involves much 'herd mentality'.  Like the JB case I focus on the evidence and what the experts say not what the herd thinks and the likes of cranks like Pat Brown. 

It is my only scenario because all the pieces fit.  But if anyone wants to come along and prove me otherwise I am open to persuasion.

Yes I did post my scenario on the Red Forum where I was alone because I had a compelling theory to the McCanns dunnit which neither camp had.  No one was able to dent it because its rock solid 

[handymanz]

The Tranmers would now be in their late 70s if they're still alive. There appears to be nothing online about Chris Tranmer.
Even though he may well have retired a few years ago, I'd have thought something may have come up given he worked at the EU.

[snow66!]

The case involves much 'herd mentality'.  Like the JB case I focus on the evidence and what the experts say not what the herd thinks and the likes of cranks like Pat Brown. 

It is my only scenario because all the pieces fit.  But if anyone wants to come along and prove me otherwise I am open to persuasion.

Yes I did post my scenario on the Red Forum where I was alone because I had a compelling theory to the McCanns dunnit which neither camp had.  No one was able to dent it because its rock solid 

OK, thanks, Cutie, but as I say, I am in no position at the moment to judge you're scenario !

[Cambridgecutie]

The Tranmers would now be in their late 70s if they're still alive. There appears to be nothing online about Chris Tranmer.
Even though he may well have retired a few years ago, I'd have thought something may have come up given he worked at the EU.

Yes that's what I thought but nothing online connecting him with EU.

According to CAT's wit stat they wanted to retire to the Algarve so I thought he may have been a golfer but could not find anything eg golf competitions, handicap etc.

CAT was at one time involved with Algarve Photography and regularly displayed her photography via its online competition but when CB was made a suspect I think the press were on to her, not as a suspect but as a witness to 'Tranmer Man' ie was the dodgy man she claims she saw actually CB.  She then disappeared from the Algarve Photography site. 

[Cambridgecutie]

OK, thanks, Cutie, but as I say, I am in no position at the moment to judge you're scenario !

Go for it buddy.  Rip it to shreds 

[Cambridgecutie]

The Tranmers would now be in their late 70s if they're still alive. There appears to be nothing online about Chris Tranmer.
Even though he may well have retired a few years ago, I'd have thought something may have come up given he worked at the EU.

Bearing in mind we only have CAT's word that CT worked for the EU. 

They were def a married couple and were both on the electoral roll CAT gave in her wit stat.  I will have to check back on my notes but they disappeared from electoral roll around 2010 I think from memory.  I assume they were then based in Portugal. 

[Steve_uk]

The main objective of the trip was to purchase property in the Algarve.

No one knows the reason for the abuduction. 

Mr Tranmer worked for the EU and was based there.

You are so naive Steve.  I have pointed out to you previously her contradiction in the interview over whether she visited the tapas bar. 

You are unable/unwilling to even read the statement.  You instantly make a judgement about the sort of person who would abduct a child and that's your starting point. My starting point is the person(s) who abducted MM knew she was alone in the unlocked apartment and the McCanns were at the tapas bar and the only people who were aware of this were PF and the Tranmers.

How did Pamela Fenn know the McCann's apartment was unlocked?

If the Tranmers abducted Madeleiene at 6:30pm it would still be light, so not afforded the advantage of the cover of darkness.

Nobody came forward identifying the Tranmers as hanging around the apartment at that time.

There's a video here of Billericay boy Mark Williams-Thomas conducting his own investigation. It seems the German authorities can place Christian Brückner's mobile telephone outside the complex that evening. MWT finds an expert who claims he was talking to another paedophile (around the 5:00 mark).

At the end (around 58:30) he discusses a former girlfriend of the accused and reaches his conclusions. https://youtu.be/GEtAw91M-Qk

[Jonathan]

Seems all they've got on Bruckner is his history and being nearby at the time. Not nearly enough.

[Cambridgecutie]

Seems all they've got on Bruckner is his history and being nearby at the time. Not nearly enough.

Nearby being?