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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5655 on: November 19, 2021, 11:01:AM »
It soon became apparent that their daughter had been kidnapped and that whoever had the child was requesting a ransom for her safe return...


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The whereabouts of 'Gerald McCanns' mobile telephone, was 'retrospectively traced' to nearby locations [on the 2nd and 3rd May 2007]..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5656 on: November 19, 2021, 01:30:PM »
Carolyn Kish's account perhaps sheds a better light regarding what had taken place behind the scene. Please read her account, here:-

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5657 on: November 19, 2021, 05:07:PM »
Carolyn Kish's account perhaps sheds a better light regarding what had taken place behind the scene. Please read her account, here:-
Wouldn't this tend to suggest that Gerry had no part in his daughter's abduction?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5658 on: November 20, 2021, 08:38:AM »
Wouldn't this tend to suggest that Gerry had no part in his daughter's abduction?

That would depend, I should think, upon whether or not, the 'Carolyn Kish' account took place on the 2nd May 2007, as opposed to the 7th May 2007. For example, just imagine for one moment, that her account was /is true and that it took place on the 2nd May 2007 at around 2.26pm in the afternoon?

The implications of this would have far reaching consequences, not just for the 'McCann parents' and 'their buddies', but also for 'members of staff' at the ocean club, 'who must be responsible for 'faking the creche register' contents, covering the '2nd' and '3rd May 2007', with 'another multitude' of 'faked accounts' designed 'to make it appear' that 'Madeleine' had been seen 'alive and well', at '4.30pm', and again, at about '6.30pm' on the evening of 'the 3rd May 2007', when in actual fact, 'she could not have been'..

More and more, 'discrepancies in the accounts' of the 'McCann parents' and 'others', who 'must have been aware' of 'the true facts of the matter', would mean that 'everyone can be absolutely sure', that rather than 'face the facts', and 'admit' that the tapas 9 group 'had been let down' by 'other known associates' of 'theirs', the lot of them, 'decided to present evidence' of 'an abduction from apartment 5A', by '10.00pm' on 'the evening of 3rd May 2007''.

Well, all 'I can say', at this juncture, is that 'the abduction theory', as 'portrayed' by 'the McCanns' and 'close associates',  'cannot be true'..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5659 on: November 20, 2021, 04:09:PM »

Well, all 'I can say', at this juncture, is that 'the abduction theory', as 'portrayed' by 'the McCanns' and 'close associates',  'cannot be true'..

I am now focussing on the apparent 'inconsistencies, relating to Carolyn Fish's [`contradictory`, at `odds with`, and the `inconsistent'] account, regarding her sighting /( and 'the') 'audio' of 'Gerald McCann', having 'taken place', on either 'the 2nd May' or the '7th May 2007' in 'a precinct of Lagos'..

Such 'dramatic inconsistencies', do 'not normally appear within the statement' made by any honest witness. Instead, this kind of development tends to indicate that 'the wording of such a witness statement', has /or is 'intended to delibrately mislead everyone'...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5660 on: November 20, 2021, 04:25:PM »
'I am not happy', that 'police have investigated this sighting' and 'audio' regarding 'Gerald McCann' talking and so obviiusly trying to negotiate the safe return of his daughter, when he was present in a precinct in Lagos...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5661 on: November 20, 2021, 08:12:PM »
Rather, than simply be told, that her 'ATM' and 'banking transactions', took place on the '7th May 2007', I would not be satisfied until I could see the original data for any possible 'cash withdrawals' or 'Banking transactions' tended to by 'Carolyn Kish' on 'the 2nd May 2007'..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5662 on: November 20, 2021, 08:18:PM »
Rather, than simply be told, that her 'ATM' and 'banking transactions', took place on the '7th May 2007', I would not be satisfied until I could see the original data for any possible 'cash withdrawals' or 'Banking transactions' tended to by 'Carolyn Kish' on 'the 2nd May 2007'..

I would also be interested in any 'CCTV' footage that was recorded in the vicinity of the 'ATM' and 'the banks' in the Lagos precinct, on both ['2nd May 2007', and '7th May 2007'] which confirm that 'Carolyn Kish' and 'Gerald McCann' were 'in close proximity to one another', on 'a particular date' and 'time'..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5663 on: November 20, 2021, 08:39:PM »
Moreover, of some additional interest to me, concerning this matter, would be any 'pinging activity' available on either the '2nd' or the '7th May 2007' either side of 2.26pm, and 'if' this approach might throw up confirmation that 'Gerald McCann' was using a mobile phone with the 'as yet' unknown owner, of the mobile phone that was used by 'Christian Bruekners' accomplice, one hour prior to the alert of 'Madeleine McCann' [10.00pm] was raised by 'Kate McCann' an hour earlier? This would place the timing of such a call occurred at around 9pm on the evening of 'the 3rd May 2007'. Of course, two members of the so called 'tapas 9 group' were not present at the tapas restuarant, at around 9pm - these were 'Mathew Oldfield'(9pm) and 'Gerald McCann'(9.05pm). Is it possible, that one or other ['Oldfield' or 'McCann'] was 'Christain Bruekners' accomplice...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5664 on: November 21, 2021, 12:14:PM »
Of course, two members of the so called 'tapas 9 group' were not present at the tapas restuarant, at around 9pm - these were 'Mathew Oldfield'(9pm) and 'Gerald McCann'(9.05pm). Is it possible, that one or other ['Oldfield' or 'McCann'] was 'Christain Bruekners' accomplice...

Did either 'Mathew Oldfield' and or 'Gerald McCann', contact 'Christian B' by mobile phone at around 9.00 pm, to 'set the reporting' of 'Madeleine' McCann' had gone missing from the family apartment an hour later?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5665 on: November 21, 2021, 07:36:PM »
ATM machine in Lagos, Portugal -  location where 'Carolyn Kish' saw 'Gerald McCann' using 'a mobile phone' and in conversation, with someone involved in 'Madeline McCanns' disappearance ['he was pleading  for them not to hurt' Madeleine']..

But - did 'she see' and 'hear him', 'pleading with' the person ' not to hurt Madeleine', on 'the 2nd May' or 'the 7th May 2007'?

'The bank in Lagos' where 'Carolyn Kish' fist learned of 'Madeleine McCanns' ordeal - she  was told that the child had gone missing [already]. But it 'is not clear', 'whether' or 'not'  the matter being spoken about, occurred on 'the 2nd May', or 'the 7th May 2007', since, 'she did not come forward' or 'get in touch with the police' until 'August 2007' by which stage, the 'McCann parents' had already set the narrative worldwide, claiming that 'their daughter' was 'abducted' from their 'holiday apartment' on the evening of 'the 3rd May 2007'.It therefore remains a possibity that 'Carolyn Kish's  version of the event, as having occurred on' the 2nd May 2007' (on the basis that 'Madeleine' met her fate two days earlier). On the premis, that this be true, it gives a clear indication, that the 'McCann parents' knew the identity of the person, or persons involved in them volunteering to keep an eye on the 'McCann Children', whilst the parents went out of the Ocean club complex to spend time at 'Chaplins bar'. In effect, an accomplice involved in/at the Ocean club made an entry in a reception diary, to the effect that the 'McCanns' and other group members, were leaving their children in the apartments and needed to book a restuarant table positioned which afforded a view of the customers apartments. It would be interesting to know the date that particular entry in the reception diary. More importantly, finding out the identity of the member of staff who  handwrote the entry alerting other members of staff to the fact that when members of the group were having their evening meal, they were leaving their children alone in their apartments, without proper supervision. Once, the answers to these issues are found out, everything should fall into place. The handwritten entry in the reception diary, and the suspicious entries in creche records covering 2nd and 3rd May 2007, need a comparison exercise, to try to establish if there was one member of staff, or two or more, who operated in the guise of an accomplice [ on the evening of the 1st May 2007, when 'a man and a woman' entered apartment to check on the safety, or otherwise. 'Madeleine was last heard to be crying until 11.45pm, on that evening, as alluded to by 'Mrs Fenns' version of events. On the evening of 3rd May 2007, that same member of staff [or an adult member of the tapas 9 group] contacted 'Christian B' by mobile phone due to be implemented at 10pm [that same evening]. 'Madeleine' was already dead by this stage. The purpose of 'Christian B(s)' attendance to apartment 5A, was not for the purpose of taking 'Madeleine'. But, rather, for the purpose of returning clothing that 'Madeleine' was wearing when she vanished two days earlier, including 'Cuddle cat', and instructions  which allowed for all those concerned to 'communicate' or 'meet up' , or 'to try and sort things out'
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5666 on: November 22, 2021, 02:03:PM »
THE Madeleine McCann suspect reportedly showed off a huge new campervan and bragged "I can transport children in this" just months before the tot vanished.

Christian B, is said to have made the sickening comment to a man who lived about 40 miles away from where the three-year-old disappeared in Praia da Luz in May, 2007.

The prime suspect in the abduction of Madeleine McCann showed off his campervan just months before she disappeared and boasted: ‘I can transport children in this.’

Christian Brueckner allegedly made the comment to the father of a female friend who lived in the Portuguese village of Foral, about 40 miles from Praia da Luz, the resort from where Madeleine disappeared on May 3, 2007.

The 43-year-old sex offender is claimed to have chillingly added: ‘Nobody can find them, nobody can catch you.’
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5667 on: November 22, 2021, 02:51:PM »
German cops are treating Madeleine’s disappearance as murderCredit: Handout
The single-storey farmhouse property is littered with abandoned wells and sits on a hillside with a footpath to the beach where she played.

And the other is up in the hills above Praia da Luz on a secluded road surrounded by just a few other houses - a drive from there to the holiday club takes 11 minutes.

In June 2014, Scotland Yard detectives backed by a team of cadaver dogs excavated scrubland around 300 yards from the farmhouse building but unearthed no clues.


The beauty spot is also well known to the Kate and Gerry, who regularly jogged around Black Rock after launching their hunt for their daughter in Praia da Luz in May 2007.

But locals - who described Christian B as a “quiet, angry weirdo” - say the German suspect would have known the area well and they think vital evidence may have been missed.

A Portuguese source said yesterday: “It’s clear the German police have strong evidence that Christian B killed Maddie - but they do not have enough to charge him yet, and they do not have a body.

“Judicial Police have confirmed they have been approached by German authorities in connection with the case and they will undoubtedly be prepared to carry out fresh searches in the hope of giving the McCanns closure.

“The obvious focus would be around the hillside former farm building and another property nearby with links to him.”
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5668 on: November 22, 2021, 02:56:PM »
What we know...

The German, 43, was living in Praia de Luz, Portugal, when she disappeared German police are treating the disappearance as a murder inquiry and say the suspect is 'significant' He reportedly fantasised about wanting to "capture something small and use it for days" in a chatroom exchange
Christian B is said to have dated a British woman for a year when i livid in Portugal

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The 43-year-old couldn't legally be pictured in full in the UK initially, but we are now able to show the convicted rapist after a German newspaper published his photo.

German and UK police forces have appealed for anyone who knows him to contact them with information.

He was initially probed as part of the investigation into the youngster's disappearance but was discounted by Portuguese police despite having a criminal past, it has been claimed.

A former neighbour told Sky News Christian B rented a farm building from an English owner from the mid-90s, leaving a year before Madeleine disappeared.

They said: "He was always a bit angry, driving fast up and down the lane, and then one day, around 2006, he just disappeared without a word. I think he left some rent unpaid.

"About six months later, I was asked to help clean up the place and it was disgusting, absolutely vile. It had been trashed, with broken stuff like computers all over the place.

"We found a bin bag and inside were wigs and exotic clothing, whether just fancy dress or something stranger I couldn't tell."
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5669 on: November 22, 2021, 04:25:PM »
THE PARENTS of Madeleine McCann today denied a German prosecutor's claims they had been sent a letter telling them she is dead.

In an on-the-record interview, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We have written to the McCanns" to tell them "Madeleine is dead".

Wolters said the letter spoke of "concrete evidence" which proved Madeleine's death, but did not go into what that evidence was.

He did not say whether the Kate or Gerry McCann had received the letter yet, or whether it was sent directly to them, or to their representatives.

German national Christian B, who is currently serving time for drug offences, was revealed as the prime suspect by German prosecutors - who say that they have "evidence" that the toddler was killed.

It comes as cops continue their probe into what happened when Madeleine went missing in 2007.


German authorities have revealed the 43-year old, who is in prison in Kiel on drug offences, was being investigated on suspicion of Madeleine's murder.

This comes after reports by German newspaper Frankfurter NeuerPresse claiming prosecutors are investigating if Christian B has any connections to the killing of Tristan Brübach, who was murdered and mutilated in March 1998.

The young boy, 13, had his throat cut and parts of his body removed in a sickening attack and was found dead in a tunnel.
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