The case of Madeleine McCann

[mike tesko]

The crying child heard by Mrs Fenn between 10.30 pm and 11.45 pm on the evening of 1st May 2007, could not have been Madeleine McCann because everything points to her already having been dead on the previous day -  the child that was crying inside apartment 5A was one of the O'Brien / Tanner children who had agreed to allow the McCann's temporary custody of her in order to buy some time to get them out of the fix they found themselves in...

The real Madeleine McCann was not alive after the 30th April 2007, the family used another little girl as a substitute. That child belonged to one of the Tapas Seven couples on holiday with the McCann's...

[mike tesko]

If we are trying to find out who took Madeleine McCann (alive or dead)  out of apartment 5A on the evening of Thursday 3rd May 2007, look no further than the involvement of Jane Tanner, Russell O'Brien and Mathew Oldfield all three need to be arrested immediately and re-intervied..

[mike tesko]

Jane Tanner (herself) was / is 'Tannerman'...

[mike tesko]

Jane Tanner (herself) was / is 'Tannerman'...

She carried off the body of Madeleine, shortly after 9.10 pm and was walking in the general direction of the mystery couples apartment (the Gorrods) with Madeleine in her arms..

[mike tesko]

The various contradictions in the timed checks of apartments in block 5, and the manner with which Madeleine's body was 'taken'  from the vicinity of apartment 5A by a member or members of the Tapas group, between around 9 and 10pm, in my view are fictitious and designed to cover up the death of Madeleine. These individual and collective timed checks give the clearest indication yet, that various members in the group played some role or other  in the disappearance, but  not necessarily in the death of the McCann child (acting as conspirators, as in the disposal of the body and creating a false timeline, and providing Gerry and Kate McCann with false alibi's)..

[mike tesko]

The various contradictions in the timed checks of apartments in block 5, and the manner with which Madeleine's body was 'taken'  from the vicinity of apartment 5A by a member or members of the Tapas group, between around 9 and 10pm, in my view are fictitious and designed to cover up the death of Madeleine. These individual and collective timed checks give the clearest indication yet, that various members in the group played some role or other  in the disappearance, but  not necessarily in the death of the McCann child (acting as conspirators, as in the disposal of the body and creating a false timeline, and providing Gerry and Kate McCann with false alibi's)..

9 pm -  Mathew Oldfield checks his own apartment, and the McCann apartment

Mathew discovers that Madeleine is missing from apartment

(Oldfield returned to Tapas bar and informed Gerry McCann at around 9.05 pm, that (Madeleine is not present in apartment) everything was OK back at the McCann apartment. Gerry McCann reacts to this (Madeleine is missing from apartment 5A) information by racing off to check his apartment himself)

9.05 pm -  Gerry McCann leaves Tapas bar to check apartment 5A

9.10 pm -  Jane Tanner leaves Tapas bar to check her own apartment, and also to find out why Gerry McCann was taking so long in doing his own check of apartment 5A. Jane Tanner sees Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkes standing on the roadside pavement close to apartment 5A talking. The two men did not acknowledge that Jane Tanner passed them in the street. According to Jane Tanner, once beyond McCann and Wilkes, she Tanner claims to have seen a man carrying off Madeleine in his arms. She then went to check her own apartment, not saying how long she was gone from the Tapas bar, nor whether or not, that by the time she returned after checking her apartment, she said whether or not Gerry McCann had already returned to the Tapas bar before her. She does not claim to have seen Gerry McCann and Jez Wilkes in still talking in the street when she returned to the Tapas bar. According to Gerry McCann he returned to the Tapas bar around 9.15 pm to 9.20 pm. Therefore, Jane Tanner was away from the Tapas bar for at least a minimum time period of 10 minutes, and or she never returned to the Tapas bar at all. Considering that Jane Tanner returned back to the Tapas bar around 9.20 pm from her check of her own apartment , or shortly afterwards, why was it necessary for her partner (Russell O'Brien) to leave the Tapas bar to check the same apartment so soon afterwards?

9.15 pm - Executive member of staff, deals with a commotion between a couple sat at a table on the Tapas terrace. Apparently this couple already know that a child has gone missing from one of the Ocean clubs apartment

It is not entirely clear whether or not Russell O'Brien left the Tapas restaurant bar at 9.20 pm, and or 9.30 pm..

9.20 pm /9.30 pm -  Russell O'Brien and Mathew Oldfield claim they left the Tapas restaurant bar to go and check their respective apartments. According to the script, at about this time, Kate McCann got to her feet intending to do a check of apartment 5A. But Mathew Oldfield offered to do a check of the McCann apartment on her behalf. Kate sat back down...

9.45 pm  -  Mathew Oldfield returns back to the Tapas restaurant bar, and informs
 Kate and Gerry McCann that all is quiet back at their apartment. He informs everyone that Russell O'Brien and has not returned because his daughter is unwell, and vommitting, etc. According to Russell O'Brien and whilst inside his own apartment he washes his daughters bedsheets.

9.50 pm / 10.00 pm -  Kate McCann leaves Tapas restaurant in bar to go and do a check of her own apartment -  discovers Madeleine is missing from apartment 5A. She hurries back to the Tapas restaurant after bar to raise the alarm, and that 'they had taken Madeleine'..

[mike tesko]

According to the script, Mathew Oldfield checked apartment 5A at 9pm, and 9.30 pm. GERRY McCann checked apartment 5A at around 9.05 pm. Kate McCann checked apartment 5A at 10 pm..

[mike tesko]

According to the script, Mathew Oldfield checked apartment 5A at 9pm, and 9.30 pm.

Depending upon which version of these checks of apartment 5A Mathew Oldfield carried out where he listened outside the McCann children's bedroom window (9 pm) on the roadside of the apartment, and at the patio door on the poolside of the apartment (9.30 pm) -  however, in one interview, Mathew Oldfield admitted that he had entered apartment 5A and found that Madeleine was missing from the children's bedroom, and so he went and looked into the parents bedroom and saw that she was not present there either. Yet to be understood, is at what stage did Mathew Oldfield alert the McCann parents to the disappearance of Madeleine? This could not have happened after Kate McCann did her 10 pm check...

If Mathew Oldfield alerted the McCann parents that their daughter was missing from apartment 5A, soon after his 9 pm check of apartment 5A, the following must be true -  Gerry McCann cannot have visited apartment 5A and seen Madeleine in the flesh and laying asleep on her bed. Furthermore, Mathew Oldfield could not have done his second check of apartment 5A at around 9.30 pm, and said that everything was OK back at the McCann apartment. Kate McCann could not have discovered Madeleine to be missing at the time of her 10 pm check of apartment 5A because Mathew Oldfield had done so earlier...

If Mathew Oldfield discovered Madeleine missing from apartment 5A any time before Kate did her 10 pm check, why didn't he alert either of the McCann parents to this effect? Why did Mathew Oldfield keep this information all to himself?

Or, was Mathew Oldfield the source regarding knowledge of a couple who were sat at a table on the Tapas terrace, talking excitedly about Madeleine having been taken from the family apartment earlier than 9.15 pm?

[mike tesko]

The Gorrod couple hired a small silver car upon arriving in Portugal.

Visit links:-

https://www.portugalresident.com/2007/08/15/car-hire-man-not-involved-in-madeleine-case/

A BRITISH MAN who became embroiled in the Madeleine investigation, because car hire staff thought it was odd that a man on his own had returned a car containing a child’s seat, has said he has been cleared by the PJ.

Solicitor James Gorrod’s car was one of 10 seized and inspected by the PJ.

He was drawn into the inquiry when police discovered he had hired a car at Faro airport, complete with a child’s seat. Staff at the car hire firm were suspicious when he arrived alone to return the car.

In fact, Mr Gorrod had dropped his wife and son at the terminal before returning the hire car.

The family stayed at the same resort as the McCanns but Mr Gorrod said he and wife Charlotte, who has since given birth to a boy, never met the missing child’s parents Kate and Gerry.

The couple say the first they knew of Madeleine’s suspected abduction was when a note was pushed under the door of their holiday villa the following day.

Mr Gorrod said rumours of their involvement in Madeleine’s abduction had been very distressing for his “vulnerable” wife.

He said: “Having given birth to a baby boy three weeks ago, for this to happen at this time when she is so vulnerable is distressing.”

In a statement released through Mr Gorrod’s Exeter-based legal firm, he said: “A British police officer directly liaising with the Portuguese investigation team recently contacted me to eliminate the vehicle I hired for a holiday with my wife and two-year-old son in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine McCann disappeared.

“The vehicle has been identified and I have been told by the British police officer that he has no plans to interview me or my family, and he does not expect me or my family to have any further involvement in the Madeleine McCann investigation.”

The statement added: “We are, of course, deeply saddened by Madeleine’s disappearance and hope for her safe return.”

Earlier, Mrs Gorrod said she was baffled Portuguese police had not spoken to them while they were on holiday even though they offered to help.

She added: “The reason we needed to hire a car was because we were not on the Mark Warner holiday and so we didn’t have an airport transfer for the trip from Faro.”

[mike tesko]

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t19116-james-and-charlotte-gorrod

James and Charlotte Gorrod are friends of Dr Russell O'Brien and his partner Jane Tanner - who are close friends of the McCanns - and met Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanne at the resort.


From Mccannfiles

A BRITON told yesterday how he became caught up in the investigation into missing Madeleine McCann after suspicious staff at a hire car firm tipped off police.

Lawyer James Gorrod, 34, rented a blue Opel Corsa in Portugal five days before the four-year-old vanished.

Staff at rental firm Sixt, based at Faro airport, raised the alarm when he returned the vehicle on May 6 – because it was fitted with a child seat and they believed he was travelling alone.

Mr Gorrod was later contacted by British police after it was discovered he had close links with friends who had been on holiday with Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry.

In a statement, Mr Gorrod said last night: “A British police officer directly liaising with the Portuguese investigation team recently contacted me to eliminate the vehicle I hired for a holiday with my wife and two-year-son in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine McCann disappeared.

“The ¬vehicle has been identified and I have been told by the British police officer that he has no plans to interview me or my family, and he does not expect me or my family to have any further involvement in the investigation. We are, of course, deeply saddened by Madeleine’s disappearance and hope for her safe return.”

Mr Gorrod’s wife, Charlotte, yesterday said it was “absolutely ridiculous” to suggest the couple were in any way linked to Madeleine’s ¬disappearance.

She said:?“Horrible things have been said about us and our friends but none of them are true.’’

The Gorrods live in Exeter, Devon, just two minutes from their friends, hospital consultant Dr Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner, who are both key witnesses in the investigation.

The two couples met up during their week-long holiday in Portugal and it is believed Mr Gorrod and his family were staying at the same resort in Praia da Luz as the McCann’s and their seven friends.

Coincidentally, chief suspect Robert Murat, 33, was in Exeter for 10 days shortly before Madeleine vanished on May 3.

The British expat arrived back in the Algarve just 48 hours earlier on May 1. He has since been questioned several times by police but has always protested his innocence.

Mr Gorrod, his wife, and their two-year-old son William flew out to Portugal on April 28 – the same day as the McCann’s and their friends began their ill-fated holiday.

Police were alerted after Mr Gorrod returned the car eight days later. The vehicle was never examined by Portuguese police and was leased out five more times.

Three months into the investigation British police carried out a major review of the case and car hire bosses were ordered to take it off the road last Monday.

The vehicle was traced to Lisbon and has now been placed in a compound awaiting examination.

Yesterday Mrs Gorrod, 32, said how hurtful speculation about the couple’s involvement in the case had been.

She said: “This is all absolutely ridiculous. We know Dr O’Brien and Jane Tanner because we both have children of about the same age and we were staying in the same resort. At the time, the Portuguese police asked the O’Brien’s if they knew anybody who had access to a car and they gave our names.

“We were happy to talk to the police but they did not approach us.

“We know what is being said now and it is ridiculous. The car has been checked out and there is no problem. It is surprising it has come up now and very upsetting for me because I have just come out of hospital after giving birth to my second child.

“We have been told that the family and friends of the McCann’s are not under suspicion. My husband has spoken to the police and given them all the details of the car. We just want to help really and we could do without all this hassle.

“My husband was on holiday with myself and our son who is aged two. And that is why we needed a baby seat. It was our last chance to have a holiday before I got too pregnant to fly.”

[mike tesko]

Although the dogs did not alert to this car, it is still an interesting coincidence. It provides a possibility of access to transport if emergency medical supplies were needed or perhaps cleaning products and equipment. All speculation on my part of course. But it is possible ROB asked for use of the car on the pretence they had run out of baby milk or some such item. This would be an acceptable reason for anybody to need to travel somewhere at anytime of the day or night. In particular another couple with a young child would understand this.

I have also read references to the fact that Charlotte Gorrod is the owner of an apartment within the OC complex, but some statements in press articles state they were staying somewhere else in the area, although I have not yet found evidence to back this up. If not staying at the OC where were they staying ?

Dianne Webster referred to the males of the group sailing on Monday with some chap she did not know and I think (but am not certain) it was MO who said one of the group was sailing with somebody he did not know on another occasion. It is worth noting that Jim Gorrod is a keen sailor. If this unknown person were him it would appear that this couple met the tapas or at least some members of the group on at least two occassions, Sunday in accordance with JT's statement and again on the Monday.

All of the above is speculation but is interesting and of course this couple were likely not to have been involved other than perhaps innocently loaning a car to a friend.

But yes, another Exeter connection in PDL and as far as I know his expertise is in construction and property disputes.

[mike tesko]

Exeter, Murat is a property developer, is that another connection?

[mike tesko]

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t1418-james-and-charlotte-gorrod

Although the dogs did not alert to this car, it is still an interesting coincidence. It provides a possibility of access to transport if emergency medical supplies were needed or perhaps cleaning products and equipment. All speculation on my part of course. But it is possible ROB asked for use of the car on the pretence they had run out of baby milk or some such item. This would be an acceptable reason for anybody to need to travel somewhere at anytime of the day or night. In particular another couple with a young child would understand this.

I have also read references to the fact that Charlotte Gorrod is the owner of an apartment within the OC complex, but some statements in press articles state they were staying somewhere else in the area, although I have not yet found evidence to back this up. If not staying at the OC where were they staying ?

Dianne Webster referred to the males of the group sailing on Monday with some chap she did not know and I think (but am not certain) it was MO who said one of the group was sailing with somebody he did not know on another occasion. It is worth noting that Jim Gorrod is a keen sailor. If this unknown person were him it would appear that this couple met the tapas or at least some members of the group on at least two occassions, Sunday in accordance with JT's statement and again on the Monday.

All of the above is speculation but is interesting and of course this couple were likely not to have been involved other than perhaps innocently loaning a car to a friend.

But yes, another Exeter connection in PDL and as far as I know his expertise is in construction and property disputes.

[mike tesko]

A British family caught up in the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine have already been cleared of any involvement.

James and Charlotte Gorrod, from Exeter, who were on holiday at the same time as the McCanns, came under suspicion when they hired a car at an airport with a child seat.

But it turned out to be for their two-year-old son.

Earlier this week Mrs Gorrod said she was baffled Portuguese police had not spoken to them while they were on holiday even though they offered to help.

But according to flight records, the Gorrods only booked for two people inbound. If Mrs Gorrod had kept their son on her knee throughout the trip, the Gorrods was would still have had a fee to pay for the child - only two flight tickets were purchased for the inbound flight, one for Mr Gorrod, and the other for his wife, raising some suspicion...

There is also the matter of the lack of luggage accompanying the Gorrods on their inbound flight, which is understood to be minimal, and amounting to hand luggage.

[mike tesko]

There is then the matter of where the Gorrod couple stayed during the first two nights, 28th / 29th April 2007?

Did they rent or own a property of their own in Portugal where they originally stayed until the Ocean club allocated apartment C5C (same apartment block as the McCann's, O'Brien/ Tanner, the Paynes, and others...