The case of Madeleine McCann

[lookout]

Programme on BBC1 tonight at 9pm marking 10 years since Madeleine's disappearance.

[lookout]

So did I,Steve. There were lots of things which pointed in his direction----------so suspicious.

Very much in the same position as JB, Murat had fingers pointing from every direction. Even his alleged background had been very questionable,to say nothing about his behaviour on the night that the child went missing. His alibi was dodgy,in fact everything had pointed in his direction which proves how easy it is to misinterpret and to get the wrong man when you have others also " against his case ". The usual frenzy had been whipped up by a woman journalist who'd been so certain of Murat's guilt that word was passed around quickly to the attending police.

[Roch]

Very much in the same position as JB, Murat had fingers pointing from every direction. Even his alleged background had been very questionable,to say nothing about his behaviour on the night that the child went missing. His alibi was dodgy,in fact everything had pointed in his direction which proves how easy it is to misinterpret and to get the wrong man when you have others also " against his case ". The usual frenzy had been whipped up by a woman journalist who'd been so certain of Murat's guilt that word was passed around quickly to the attending police.

He was virtually hung drawn and quartered simply for having a glass eye.

[lookout]

He was virtually hung drawn and quartered simply for having a glass eye.

That's right,but it was so scary a thought at how easy it was to be drawn in once his background,along with a few fabrications/embellishments came to the fore.
He then jumped a flight to see his daughter in the UK and was made an arguido on his return,the same as the McCanns were. They probably suspected the man because much had been made of his movements,behaviour and background.

[Roch]

That's right,but it was so scary a thought at how easy it was to be drawn in once his background,along with a few fabrications/embellishments came to the fore.
He then jumped a flight to see his daughter in the UK and was made an arguido on his return,the same as the McCanns were. They probably suspected the man because much had been made of his movements,behaviour and background.

There was something to do with phone records...

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t320-why-were-both-murat-s-and-gerry-mccann-s-mobiles-switched-off-for-the-same-32-hours-on-2-and-3-may-2007

[lookout]

There was something to do with phone records...

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t320-why-were-both-murat-s-and-gerry-mccann-s-mobiles-switched-off-for-the-same-32-hours-on-2-and-3-may-2007

The author in most of these accusatory type comments or scenario's also happens to be a friend of Paul Harrison the author,and Tony Bennett also assisted PH in his book about Jeremy Bamber,so anything which is said or suggested by Bennett I tend not to look into so much.

[lookout]

Bennett ( ex-solicitor ) was damn lucky to have escaped being behind bars himself for the libellous thread he had accusing/damning the McCanns.

[Steve_uk]

Programme on BBC1 tonight at 9pm marking 10 years since Madeleine's disappearance.

There's also a programme on Sky News at 8:00pm.

[mike tesko]

I believe parents over sedated Maddie, that the alarm was raised by Gerry during his 9 O'clock check, that upon his return to the tappas bar, he asked two members of the group to go and check on his daughters welfare, (9.30am), that during this visit Maddie's body was removed from apartment 5a, and that by time Kate got around to checking on the children at around 10am, one of the people responsible for Maddie's disappearence, had already left taking Maddie's body with him, the other accomplice left the apartment as soon as Kate stepped foot in the apartment! The slamming of the bedroom door and the blowing inward of curtains at the window was created by way of a vacuum, with patio door open , bedroom window open, and back door on the carpark side of the apartments swung open, could only have occurred with someone else being present in the apartment at the same time as Kate  McCann!!

[mike tesko]

She ran back to the tapas bar, shouting, 'they've taken her, they've taken her, Maddie is gone'!!!

[Steve_uk]

I would explain the cadaver traces but I can't believe it would have been covered up by the Tapas 7 for so long, all of whom it seemed left their children unguarded that night.

[mike tesko]

I would explain the cadaver traces but I can't believe it would have been covered up by the Tapas 7 for so long, all of whom it seemed left their children unguarded that night.

When I stayed in one of the apartments directly opposite 5A,  I tried to recreate the slamming of the bedroom door with the curtains blowing inward. This was achieved by leaving the patio door ajar, the metal shutter of the bedroom (in question) raised with the window open with the bedroom door slightly open and the opening of the front door! When stood at the bedroom door you would be able to see anyone at the door that went outside - or anyone inside who was going outside! Somebody must have had a key, or the parents had left the door to the outside open!

[mike tesko]

When I stayed in one of the apartments directly opposite 5A,  I tried to recreate the slamming of the bedroom door with the curtains blowing inward. This was achieved by leaving the patio door ajar, the metal shutter of the bedroom (in question) raised with the window open with the bedroom door slightly open and the opening of the front door! When stood at the bedroom door you would be able to see anyone at the door that went outside - or anyone inside who was going outside! Somebody must have had a key, or the parents had left the door to the outside open!

This experiment was repeated over and over again, and always produced the same result!

[mike tesko]

This informs me that me that when Kate McCann returned to the apartment (5a) that there was somebody already present there, or that someone entered the door of the apartment and caused the bedroom door to slam and the curtains at the window to blow inward!

[mike tesko]

This informs me that me that when Kate McCann returned to the apartment (5a) that there was somebody already present there, or that someone entered the door of the apartment and caused the bedroom door to slam and the curtains at the window to blow inward!

Somebody had raised the metal shutter and opened the bedroom window after Gerry McCanns 9pm visit - this could have been done by either of the two tappas group members who carried out the 9.30pm check, or someone in-between then and the 10 pm check made by Kate!

What appears important to me, is the timing of the 'slamming of the bedroom Door' and 'the inward blowing of the bedroom curtains', which did not occur until after Kate had already entered the apartment (5a) it is worth noting that the bedroom door in question did not slam shut as soon as Kate slid open the patio door! Immediately in front on the patio door was the doorway to the children's bedroom and the passage way to door leading out in the direction of the car park! Anyone already inside the apartment, or anyone entering the apartment whilst Kate was inside would have been seen by Kate! Anyone entering the apartment once Kate had entered the apartment (5a) with Kate in the vicinity of the bedroom door would have seen Kate, and she would have seen them! The key piece of evidence being access to the apartment (5a) via the carpark door by an accomplice! According to the parents that carpark door was locked when they both left to go to the tapas bar, they left via the patio door (leaving it unlocked)! It is not known which door Gerry McCan used during his 9pm visit, but two of the tapas group used the patio door access and exit, Kate used the patio door access and exit at 10pm...

Whoever took Maddie out of the apartment almost certainly took her out via the locked car park door of the apartment (unlocking it) at the back of apartment 5a. They raised the steel shutter at the bedroom window and opened the window to give an impression that some intruder had entered the bedroom and taken Maddie out by that route! This seems unlikely considering that the patio door was left open on the poolside of Apartment 5a, and that someone had unrestricted access to the rear car park door (as exercised at the time Kate returned to the apartment at 10pm)! 'They've taken her, they've taken her, Maddie is gone' taking on new meaning in light of what is now known...

Who had taken her?

What did Kate know by the time she returned to the tapas bar to speak those words?

'They've taken her, they've taken her, Maddie is gone' taking on new meaning in light of what is now known...