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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2730 on: May 15, 2017, 01:45:PM »
Sequence with which patio door on pool side of apartment, and the front door on the roadside of the apartment may be opened at a time the other door was closed without creating the vacuum necessary to slam the bedroom door or to make the curtains and the open window Dow / shutter flail around!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2731 on: May 15, 2017, 01:47:PM »
With both doors open at the same time the vacuum necessary to slam the bedroom door and flail the curtains at the bedroom / shutter window is generated as shown in blue..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2732 on: May 15, 2017, 01:59:PM »
The apartment I was staying in was the same layout as the one which Maddie was taken from, I was able to recreate the vacuum spoken about in Kate McCanns account involving the children's bedroom door slamming, and the curtains flailing at the open window / shutter repeatedly without deviation providing the bedroom window and shutter was open and raised, the bedroom door slightly ajar, and both the patio door, and the front door were both open all at one and the same time! What this alerted me to at the time of these experiments was the very strong possibility that someone was already inside the apartment waiting for Kate to come, or that the person concerned re-entered the apartment just after Kate arrived there! The key feature being that someone opened the front door on the roadside of the apartment which caused the bedroom door to slam shut! The front door must have remained open long enough for Kate to push the door back open and for her to go to the bedroom window where the curtains were flailing to notice that the window was open and the steel shutter raised!

Kate does not state how long this phenomena lasted for?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2733 on: May 15, 2017, 02:04:PM »
'They've taken her, they've taken her, Maddie is gone' takes on a new meaning once you realise how the vacuum which caused the children's bedroom door to slam closed etc, since with someone in the front door vicinity they would easily have been in Kate's eye line of vision?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2734 on: May 15, 2017, 10:43:PM »
I can only assume it was a predator with Madeleine. Maybe working for a foreign gang. The gang then sold Madeleine to a couple who wanted children.

The predator/s  got off the island by boat.

It was a good location for a predator. As the adults would go across  to the other side of the apartment swimming pool in the evenings. They may make regular checks on the children but a predator doesn't need long.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2735 on: May 15, 2017, 10:45:PM »
I can only assume it was a predator with Madeleine. Maybe working for a foreign gang. The gang then sold Madeleine to a couple who wanted children.

The predator/s  got off the island by boat.

It was a good location for a predator. As the adults would go across the to the other side of the apartment swimming pool in the evenings. They may make regular checks on the children but a predator doesn't need long.

Have you read Truth of the Lie?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2736 on: May 15, 2017, 10:49:PM »
Have you read Truth of the Lie?

I haven't. What does it say ?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2737 on: May 15, 2017, 10:56:PM »
I believe Madeleine is still alive. There is no point in a predator/s taking her just to kill her. Hopefully she is being looked after well in a good family.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2738 on: May 15, 2017, 10:58:PM »
I haven't. What does it say ?

Chapter One can be found here: http://truthofthelie.com/the-book/chapter-1/

All the other chapters are also available from the English Book sub heading.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2739 on: May 15, 2017, 11:00:PM »
I can only assume it was a predator with Madeleine. Maybe working for a foreign gang. The gang then sold Madeleine to a couple who wanted children.

The predator/s  got off the island by boat.

It was a good location for a predator. As the adults would go across the to the other side of the apartment swimming pool in the evenings. They may make regular checks on the children but a predator doesn't need long.
I find it hard to believe that a decent family would buy a child from a predator.  How could anyone buy a child who had obviously been stolen and not go to the authorities. It doesn't make sense to me I'm afraid. However desperate a couple maybe f o r a child to care for and love no decent person in their right mind would ever take another's child. It doesn't work like that.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2740 on: May 15, 2017, 11:12:PM »
Chapter One can be found here: http://truthofthelie.com/the-book/chapter-1/

All the other chapters are also available from the English Book sub heading.

Will browse it tomorrow.

I never believed Madeleine's parents killed her.

The independent evidence from people with the parents is that a predator had the opportunity that evening.  The predator had probably cased the place beforehand.

If there was a way by boat to another country, that is what happened.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2741 on: May 15, 2017, 11:22:PM »
Will browse it tomorrow.

I never believed Madeleine's parents killed her.

The independent evidence from people with the parents is that a predator had the opportunity that evening.  The predator had probably cased the place beforehand.

If there was a way by boat to another country, that is what happened.
I don't believe her parents killed her but I do believe she is probably dead.  Poor little girl.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2742 on: May 15, 2017, 11:34:PM »
I don't follow this case much. But let me guess. There is still only one undisputed fact to go on.... she vanished.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2743 on: May 15, 2017, 11:59:PM »
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/news.sky.com/story/amp/what-happened-to-madeleine-mccann-six-possible-theories-examined-10852674&ved=0ahUKEwjdzvjd_fLTAhWpA8AKHZ5-AzUQFgglMAM&usg=AFQjCNEO_-4WzpqlVw8GN2-5VPEeQUyvbw

Here are some theories.

The flaw in my theory that she was taken to be sold to willing parents abroad, is there were two younger children available.

It says the most plausible theory is she was taken to be sold into slavery in Morroco. Not sure how much use a 3 year old would be for slavery. Seems a bit extreme going to another country to kidnap someone for this. Were there no available slaves in Morroco ?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2744 on: May 16, 2017, 09:20:AM »
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/news.sky.com/story/amp/what-happened-to-madeleine-mccann-six-possible-theories-examined-10852674&ved=0ahUKEwjdzvjd_fLTAhWpA8AKHZ5-AzUQFgglMAM&usg=AFQjCNEO_-4WzpqlVw8GN2-5VPEeQUyvbw

Here are some theories.

The flaw in my theory that she was taken to be sold to willing parents abroad, is there were two younger children available.

It says the most plausible theory is she was taken to be sold into slavery in Morroco. Not sure how much use a 3 year old would be for slavery. Seems a bit extreme going to another country to kidnap someone for this. Were there no available slaves in Morroco ?
I agree that is a big flaw, if someone wanted a child to bring up as their own the younger the child the easier and probably more desirable the child would be therefore one of the 2 year olds for the reasons explained in the article. 

There is a possibility she was taken to be sold to a couple or single parent who wanted a child but I cannot agree she would have a happy stable childhood.  Anyone willing to take someone else's child is not kind and loving I'm afraid, such a person would be self centred and wicked or mentally ill to do that to the McCanns, hardly someone capable of delivering a happy life to a child.  The whole world knows about the McCann's so it's highly unlikely that Madeliene is living a happy and secure normal life totally unrecognised by the local population.