Nevill's Premonition?

[tyler]

It is at Feering on the A12. If it is the same Little Chef?

I thought it was at Boreham Services?

Their food is so expensive my husband refers to them as 'Little Thief ' !!!

[lookout]

Steve,,Jeremy knew WHF like the back of his hand,right.? Why were half the lights on do you think.? Possibly knowing that there could be a chance that someone could walk past the farmhouse and make out figures from the windows.Do you think he'd have taken such a chance.?

[Steve_uk]

Steve,,Jeremy knew WHF like the back of his hand,right.? Why were half the lights on do you think.? Possibly knowing that there could be a chance that someone could walk past the farmhouse and make out figures from the windows.Do you think he'd have taken such a chance.?

The bodies had to be discovered,but not too soon. This is why Nevill's body was dragged to its position behind the door.If anyone observed a light then all well and good that they could vouch for an early time,when Jeremy had vacated the property.

[Lugg]

After killing five people in cold blood his mind was on making the telephone call in the kitchen to his answerphone at Goldhanger,cycling back there unobserved and cleaning up,in addition to a pathetic attempt to rope Julie in as an accessory with the second telephone call,which the Defence have still not fully explained.

You're not getting my reasoning Steve. If his mind was on all these things why did he plant one of Sheila's fingerprints on the gun? You're weakening your own argument by saying this. If he was intent on putting the blame firmly on Sheila, why spend a lot of time cleaning the gun and then put only one fingerprint on the gun? But a real question would be did the police wear gloves when they themselves handled the weapon? And why were there so few of their prints?

[Steve_uk]

You're not getting my reasoning Steve. If his mind was on all these things why did he plant one of Sheila's fingerprints on the gun? You're weakening your own argument by saying this. If he was intent on putting the blame firmly on Sheila, why spend a lot of time cleaning the gun and then put only one fingerprint on the gun? But a real question would be did the police wear gloves when they themselves handled the weapon? And why were there so few of their prints?

Well he couldn't play around with the body after death could he? It had to look like Sheila had fired shots into herself and then fallen back.

[Bridget]

You're not getting my reasoning Steve. If his mind was on all these things why did he plant one of Sheila's fingerprints on the gun? You're weakening your own argument by saying this. If he was intent on putting the blame firmly on Sheila, why spend a lot of time cleaning the gun and then put only one fingerprint on the gun? But a real question would be did the police wear gloves when they themselves handled the weapon? And why were there so few of their prints?

Didn't the police say they picked it up by the hooks wear a strap attaches or something? It seems certain that whoever checked it was safe would have had to have had a better grasp than that.

[susan]

Hi steve if Jeremy's mind was on getting back to Goldhanger quickly for his clean up and roping Julie into his plan why waste time heating a rifle and burning three marks on Ralphs back one would think he wanted out of there as quick as possible. If he wanted to make sure Ralph was dead he could have given him another beating around the head would have been quicker than heating up the rifle. God rest your soul Ralph.

[susan]

Hi Bridget  how do you think the light was broken.  Was something thrown and hit the light do you think.

[Steve_uk]

Hi steve if Jeremy's mind was on getting back to Goldhanger quickly for his clean up and roping Julie into his plan why waste time heating a rifle and burning three marks on Ralphs back one would think he wanted out of there as quick as possible. If he wanted to make sure Ralph was dead he could have given him another beating around the head would have been quicker than heating up the rifle. God rest your soul Ralph.

These marks do need explaining and I've read that they have been impossible to duplicate just by heating a rifle in an Aga. Was it in Andrew Hunter's book draft..not sure.

[lookout]

Well he couldn't play around with the body after death could he? It had to look like Sheila had fired shots into herself and then fallen back.

Steve,,if Jeremy had been near bodies,,the sniffer dog outside the farmhouse would have been going mad.

[Steve_uk]

Steve,,if Jeremy had been near bodies,,the sniffer dog outside the farmhouse would have been going mad.

I don't know lookout but hadn't Jeremy had a shower and put on a load of clothes.

[lookout]

I don't know lookout but hadn't Jeremy had a shower and put on a load of clothes.

Steve,neither a bath nor a shower would hide the scent of a trained dog at sniffing corpses.
A dog was present,but not interested.

[Steve_uk]

Steve,neither a bath nor a shower would hide the scent of a trained dog at sniffing corpses.
A dog was present,but not interested.

Depending on whether the smell of death was there after the short time it took for Jeremy to kill them all and then remove himself from the premises.

[susan]

steve forgive me if I am wrong but I thought the tests on the pig skin which is the nearest to our own proved to be very much like the marks on Ralphs back and they were carried out by the experts from Arizona.  I could be getting mixed up.  It is my honest opinion that the marks on Ralphs back could have been made with a large lit cigar the type that Sheila smoked.  It does not take long or require great heat to burn through the skin and leave a scar for life.  This I have experienced myself.

[Steve_uk]

steve forgive me if I am wrong but I thought the tests on the pig skin which is the nearest to our own proved to be very much like the marks on Ralphs back and they were carried out by the experts from Arizona.  I could be getting mixed up.  It is my honest opinion that the marks on Ralphs back could have been made with a large lit cigar the type that Sheila smoked.  It does not take long or require great heat to burn through the skin and leave a scar for life.  This I have experienced myself.

I'm open to suggestion on this susan;it's an inexplicable part of the case.