DS "Stan" Jones, present at scene when Sheila's body stage managed by police...

[mike tesko]

DS "Stan" Jones, present at scene when Sheila's body stage managed by police...


He arrived at the scene (WHF) at 9;16am, and spent 17 minutes milliong around before he went into the farmhouse at 9;33am. Within 1 minute of DS Jones and others entering the premises at 9;33am, DCI Harris, and DCS Gibbons both left the scene (9;34am:-

[mike tesko]

At 9;00am, police vehicle QK53 and its occupants eho carried out a training exercise inside the houise with the bodies of the five victims still in situ, went to the front of the premises (16 minutes before  (9:16am) DS Jones arrived at the scene)...

[mike tesko]

It is worthy of note, that at 9;34am, DCS Gibbons left the scene, but for some reason at 10;51am, ( 1 hour and 17 minutes later) he returned to the scene in the company of Inspector Palmer, but both stayed for only 8 minutes (until 10;59am) before leaving again, and that this revisit to the scene by DCS Gibbons coincided with DS Jones and the occupants of a police vehicle (QK) leaving the scene on informatives at the same time - it becomes clear threrefore, that DS Jones knew what took place inside the premises when police carried out a training exercise with the bodies of the victims still in situ, a training exercise which had been ongoing since 9;00am, until 10;59am, same morning - because DS Jones left the scene in the very same vehicle (QK) at 10;59am, containing the group of training officers and DC Henderson (Vehicle that took DC Henderson away from the scene went directly to the house at 10;40am, and left 19 minutes later). DS Jones was taken to Jeremy's cottage in one of the QK vehicles which took part in these training exercises...

[mike tesko]

It is worthy of note, that at 9;34am, DCS Gibbons left the scene, but for some reason at 10;51am, ( 1 hour and 17 minutes later) he returned to the scene in the company of Inspector Palmer, but both stayed for only 8 minutes (until 10;59am) before leaving again, and that this revisit to the scene by DCS Gibbons coincided with DS Jones and the occupants of a police vehicle (QK) leaving the scene on informatives at the same time - it becomes clear threrefore, that DS Jones knew what took place inside the premises when police carried out a training exercise with the bodies of the victims still in situ, a training exercise which had been ongoing since 9;00am, until 10;59am, same morning - because DS Jones left the scene in the very same vehicle (QK) at 10;59am, containing the group of training officers and DC Henderson (Vehicle that took DC Henderson away from the scene went directly to the house at 10;40am, and left 19 minutes later). DS Jones was taken to Jeremy's cottage in one of the QK vehicles which took part in these training exercises...

DS Jones does not make a witness statement saying what he did at the scene during his first visit to the scene that morning between 9;16am and 10;59am, so what exactly did he do at the scene for one hour and 43 minutes, during his first visit there that date?

[mike tesko]

Ds Jones, then returns to the scene at 11:45am, (46 minutes after leaving with occupants of QK), and stays at the scene until 13;37pm, a periiod of two hours and two minutes (this was whenn he took possession of the four exhibits, SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ2 and the silencer SBJ/1...

[mike tesko]

The two visits to the scene on 7th August 1985, by DS Jones:-

(1) - 9;16am - 10;59am (one hour and fourty three minutes)...
(2) - 11;45am - 13;37pm (two hours and two minutes)...

Jones went to Jeremy's cottage in between the two aforementioned visits to the scene...

[mike tesko]

The two visits to the scene on 7th August 1985, by DS Jones:-

(1) - 9;16am - 10;59am (one hour and fourty three minutes)...
(2) - 11;45am - 13;37pm (two hours and two minutes)...

Jones went to Jeremy's cottage in between the two aforementioned visits to the scene...

None of the duties he performed in connection with the two visits to the scene on 7th August 1985 (above) are recorded in the dodgy pocketbook of DS Jones re-written pocketbook pertaining to the scene that day...

[mike tesko]

More importantly, there is nothing at all recorded in his dodgy pocketbook to say when he took possession of, or found the four exhibits at the scene bearing the identifying marks of SBJ/4, SBJ/3, SBJ/2 and the silencer marked SBJ/1...

But what police records confirm is that DS Jones had a camera, and he took photographs at the scene, which were not listed in PC Birds so called MASTER COPY ALBUM containing 223 photographs - Jones took at least two photographs at the scene on 7th August 1985, (1) in the kitchen (SBJ/2) showing the state of the telepjhone on the kktchen worktop, and (2)  another photograph which he took of the downstiars toilet (SBJ/3) where Anthony Pargeter normally kept his guns, accessories and silencer...

Interestingly enough, DS Jones is referred to in the above police records as a SOCO, but he was not...

[mike tesko]

More disturbingly, two further silencers found there way into police possession:-

These two additional parker hale silencers are at the heart of the silencer conspiracy, and once Jeremy was convicted of the murders, and before they were returned to David Boutflour, they were handed to a detective sergeant in the fraud office, because police were aware that a number of different silencers had been merged into one for use in helping to decure the convictions for these murders against Jeremy Bamber...

[mike tesko]

Two silencers handed into the police were handed over to a detective sergeant (collar number 162) in the fraud squad before both were handed back to David Boutflour, against signature, on the 20th May 1988, by DCS Ainsley against his signature (Head of the secind investigation). Hand written details on reciept confirm that police suspected that relatives and other police officers sought to merge different silencers into the same one...

[vidvic]

Two silencers handed into the police were handed over to a detective sergeant (collar number 162) in the fraud squad before both were handed back to David Boutflour, against signature, on the 20th May 1988, by DCS Ainsley against his signature (Head of the secind investigation). Hand written details on reciept confirm that police suspected that relatives and other police officers sought to merge different silencers into the same one...

What details showed police suspected the relatives of anything?!

[mike tesko]

What details showed police suspected the relatives of anything?!

(1) DCI Jones threw relatives out of Witham police station, telling them not to come back trying to tell police how to go about doing their business, (2) police took blood samples from all relatives to eliminate possibilty that blood found in one of the silencers did not originate from anyone of them, (3) silencers owned by relatives and Ralph Bamber got mixed up and this caused police to seize all silencers and bring them all to court, whilst continuing to maintain there had been only one...

[vidvic]

(1) DCI Jones threw relatives out of Witham police station, telling them not to come back trying to tell police how to go about doing their business, (2) police took blood samples from all relatives to eliminate possibilty that blood found in one of the silencers did not originate from anyone of them, (3) silencers owned by relatives and Ralph Bamber got mixed up and this caused police to seize all silencers and bring them all to court, whilst continuing to maintain there had been only one...

So, the police did a pretty good job eliminating the relatives from any wrong doing? Surely you can't have a conspiracy if they were suspicious of them?

[mike tesko]

So, the police did a pretty good job eliminating the relatives from any wrong doing? Surely you can't have a conspiracy if they were suspicious of them?

Relatives have not been eliminated from involvement in the silencer conspiracy, blood and paint was found inside and upon a silencer belonging to one of them, not inside the Bamber owned silencer - how did blood from Sheila, and paint from the aga find its way onto a silencer owned by one of the relatives?

[vidvic]

(1) DCI Jones threw relatives out of Witham police station, telling them not to come back trying to tell police how to go about doing their business, (2) police took blood samples from all relatives to eliminate possibilty that blood found in one of the silencers did not originate from anyone of them, (3) silencers owned by relatives and Ralph Bamber got mixed up and this caused police to seize all silencers and bring them all to court, whilst continuing to maintain there had been only one...

Point(1) True Point(2) So, you accept that there was blood in one of the silencers... Point(3) Surely you are arguing against yourself here? They were suspicious so they called in the silencers but when they got them they used them to convict bamber?