Bye guys.

[ngb1066]

you will be badly missed mat mate.         Its just a pity the mods didnt give you any backup when you were be so savagely attacked.

John Lamberton please do not post any further.  You have only avoided a ban under this username as you used it to PM your request to Roch for posts to be deleted and it was agreed that this channel of communication should be left open.  If you wish to communicate with me by PM do so but otherwise do not exercise the privileges of a registered user. 

[curious]

John Lamberton please do not post any further.  You have only avoided a ban under this username as you used it to PM your request to Roch for posts to be deleted and it was agreed that this channel of communication should be left open.  If you wish to communicate with me by PM do so but otherwise do not exercise the privileges of a registered user.

somebodys got to moderate your forum as you seem completely unable to do so.

i am still awaiting your response to our proposition.

[ngb1066]

somebodys got to moderate your forum as you seem completely unable to do so.

Somebody needs to moderate you Lamberton and I suspect that will happen sooner than you expect.

Goodbye!

[Roch]

Roch I also do not understand why you allowed MAT to continue to post when you also knew he was a troll?

Bring back Grahame and Jackie P I say - at least they gave a damn about JB and INjustice and were making a difference.

Roch there appeared to be a time when you and Jackie were friends; can I ask why that changed? What was responsible for the misunderstandings?

Mat - I clashed with Mat on a few occasions but for the most part I got on with him and found some of his posts amusing.  I think Mat found me approachable which helped smooth things for him on the forum sometimes.  Mat did get in to a lot of scrapes.

Grahame - despite some heated words recently, I have a lot of respect for Grahame and found his case related posts were often of a high standard. 

Jackie - I felt that I have been very accommodating towards Jackie and also very supportive of her.
It would be interesting to get other long-standing forum members opinions on whether I was or I wasn't accommodating and supportive towards Jackie.

[Roch]

MAT is a troll!

Jackie and Grahame are real people who posted using their own names.

Am I missing something?

Possibly that a troll can be also defined as such according to how they post and act behind the scenes.  I don';t think that somebody is not a troll simply because they use their real name.  But I think I can see what you are getting at, in that it is more open and honest to use your own name.  Fair dos.

[Patti]

Hi Stephanie. Roch is a good guy and he is very fair towards everybody on here....

I don't know a great deal about mat, but he was always OK with me and I was OK with him, even though we had different opinions. 

Can I ask you what the situation is with Simon now? Is it likely his case will be sent to the court of appeal? 

[HMEssex]

Mat - I clashed with Mat on a few occasions but for the most part I got on with him and found some of his posts amusing.  I think Mat found me approachable which helped smooth things for him on the forum sometimes.  Mat did get in to a lot of scrapes.

Grahame - despite some heated words recently, I have a lot of respect for Grahame and found his case related posts were often of a high standard. 

Jackie - I felt that I have been very accommodating towards Jackie and also very supportive of her.
It would be interesting to get other long-standing forum members opinions on whether I was or I wasn't accommodating and supportive towards Jackie.

You always appeared fair and supportive in my opinion.

[Patti]

Patti do you think MAT was Jacqueline Lynch?

MAT was a troll - all the posts I've even seen written by MAT were either goading, derogatory, libellous or defamatory....
 
Are you referring to PM's?

Simon's case is still under review by the CCRC - it's all there on his webiste if you care to read it Patti - the blog is a good place to start.

No I don't Stephanie think he is female and, I hope Mat will be back one day.  He was a bit of a lad sometimes...He was never nasty towards me. I could tell him off and he wouldn't bare any grudges....

I have already read Simon's case Stephanie and I do RT your plight on Twitter. 

[mertol22]

Quoted the wrong post - here you go Roch....

Roch I also do not understand why you allowed MAT to continue to post when you also knew he was a troll?

Bring back Grahame and Jackie P I say - at least they gave a damn about JB and INjustice and were making a difference.

Roch there appeared to be a time when you and Jackie were friends; can I ask why that changed? What was responsible for the misunderstandings?

Grahame and Jackie were good members , Jackie had fire and guts affraid of no one , a quality i admire, Grahame was cool and collected , both were in pursuit of the truth is that a hinderence ?

[maggie]

Grahame and Jackie were good members , Jackie had fire and guts affraid of no one , a quality i admire, Grahame was cool and collected , both were in pursuit of the truth is that a hinderence ?

Some people come here soley to cause trouble mertol.  They have done their homework and they know who they are gunning for and they know what buttons to press......they are called trolls..as you know

[Neil]

Grahame and Jackie were good members , Jackie had fire and guts affraid of no one , a quality i admire, Grahame was cool and collected , both were in pursuit of the truth is that a hinderence ?

I agree.  Both are sorely missed.

[Roch]

You always appeared fair and supportive in my opinion.

Thanks HM.

[maggie]

Mertol is does seem to me that some people feel threatened by those that seek the truth.

there are trolls who are paid to disrupt MOJ sites.  That is their job, that is why they can stay up all night on forums....it is their job, what they get paid for.  These are professional trolls.  They have no axe to grind just disruption. They no doubt have done their homework and know who to upset and how to upset them.  They know the vulnerabilities, they also know how to turn people against people. This is what I've been told and I believe we have been hit by someone like that.

[Caroline R]

there are trolls who are paid to disrupt MOJ sites.  That is their job, that is why they can stay up all night on forums....it is their job, what they get paid for.  These are professional trolls.  They have no axe to grind just disruption. They no doubt have done their homework and know who to upset and how to upset them.  They know the vulnerabilities, they also know how to turn people against people. This is what I've been told and I believe we have been hit by someone like that.

It would explain why a certain person seemed to single out particular members - however, I think they were eventually hoisted by their own petard and became totally paranoid about everyone! But it didn't take a genius to work out that they weren't a genuine poster because they were always involved either directly or indirectly in any and every argument! Of course it was NEVER their fault! 

[maggie]

Maggie did MAT tell you this; only I don't think anyone would get paid to troll.... but I think these people get a kick out of it...

Some trolls I've seen seem to have a target and know whay they are going after and what they hope to achive.. Havig said that; it would appear to back fire time and time again....

No Mat would never tell me anything and I have never had a conversation with mat. I have read tho that this goes on. I think oncesaid posted about it.