The RIDDLE of the BACK STAIRCASE.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, I sincerely believe from what you write (right), that you are shown to be the 'potty' person.
I grant Cleopatra also had twins, but find it remarkable that, according to you, she requested her police to roll her up in a carpet (surely a rugged lady).
Nowhere have I, or indeed anyone, suggested Sheila asked to be rolled up in a carpet. You yourself come over as potty, or else you are on some other substance.

And you need to know your place,Sonny.

[maggie]

And you need to know your place,Sonny.

That's a bit harsh Steve,  Campion is our elder statesman and deserves some respect imo.

[Jane]

That's a bit harsh Steve,  Campion is our elder statesman and deserves some respect imo.

Maggie, it would appear that showing respect and humility are "No can do's" as far as Steve is concerned. One can only hope that his students don't emulate his behaviour in order to curry favour.

[Caroline R]

I thought Sheila was reading the Bible,not Plutarch's Lives,though maybe she thought she was Cleopatra as they both gave birth to twins and asked the Police present to roll her up in a carpet. I suppose the silencer mark on Sheila's neck can be explained away somehow,along with going back to the master bedroom when if she's as potty as you make her out to be she would have lain with her sons before law enforcement arrived.

What silencer marK? This was never evidence at the trial!! Had there been a silencer mark it most certainly would have been  used to support the idea of the silencer being used!!

[Steve_uk]

What silencer marK? This was never evidence at the trial!! Had there been a silencer mark it most certainly would have been  used to support the idea of the silencer being used!!

Then the photograph I have seen on this site is a fake,along with Andrew Hunter's book draft. Why do you think Mike is put in the ludicrous position of having to argue that not only did the Police shoot Sheila but they shot her with a Police-issue silencer?

[Steve_uk]

Maggie, it would appear that showing respect and humility are "No can do's" as far as Steve is concerned. One can only hope that his students don't emulate his behaviour in order to curry favour.

If you believe #220 and #224 show humility and respect along with videos shown in a similar vein yesterday then maybe I will begin to question my membership of this site. Having seceded from Betnod because my mental health was questioned the last thing I need on this site is some creepy a$$cracker  making similar allegations.

[Caroline R]

Then the photograph I have seen on this site is a fake,along with Andrew Hunter's book draft. Why do you think Mike is put in the ludicrous position of having to argue that not only did the Police shoot Sheila but they shot her with a Police-issue silencer?

I've seen the photograph that you're referring to, however, I see not such silencer mark. I didn't ask you for 'opinion' be it yours or Andrew Hunter's!! Where is the EVIDENCE to support your claim that there is a silencer mark on Sheila's wound? If such evidence existed, we wouldn't be arguing the toss of whether Jeremy is guilty or not!!

[Steve_uk]

I've seen the photograph that you're referring to, however, I see not such silencer mark. I didn't ask you for 'opinion' be it yours or Andrew Hunter's!! Where is the EVIDENCE to support your claim that there is a silencer mark on Sheila's wound? If such evidence existed, we wouldn't be arguing the toss of whether Jeremy is guilty or not!!

All I can say is the photograph must be a fake,and you'll have to ask Mike about the Police-issue silencer because I have lost track of where Sheila is supposed to have shot herself and what the sequence of events was subsequently.

[Caroline R]

All I can say is the photograph must be a fake,and you'll have to ask Mike about the Police-issue silencer because I have lost track of where Sheila is supposed to have shot herself and what the sequence of events was subsequently.

The photo isn't fake but it is simply 'opinion' in respect to a silencer mark being present. I see no silencer mark and it was never mentioned at the trial - you frequently confuse 'opinions' with facts and evidence.

[Jane]

If you believe #220 and #224 show humility and respect along with videos shown in a similar vein yesterday then maybe I will begin to question my membership of this site. Having seceded from Betnod because my mental health was questioned the last thing I need on this site is some creepy a$$cracker  making similar allegations.

Steve, I think you need to lighten up a little. NOBODY here, to my knowledge, has questioned your MENTAL health and NOBODY has questioned your intelligence. However I AM questioning your lack of manners and I find it frankly CHILDISH beyond reason for an adult of your intelligence to take a standpoint of "If you're rude to me, I'll be rude to you back." Two wrongs DON'T make a right.

[Caroline R]

Steve, I think you need to lighten up a little. NOBODY here, to my knowledge, has questioned your MENTAL health and NOBODY has questioned your intelligence. However I AM questioning your lack of manners and I find it frankly CHILDISH beyond reason for an adult of your intelligence to take a standpoint of "If you're rude to me, I'll be rude to you back." Two wrongs DON'T make a right.

And lack of supporting evidence!! 

[Jane]

And lack of supporting evidence!! 

YES, Caroline, that too. Thankyou :D

[lookout]

Just been reading about Angela Vane who strangled and stabbed her two year old child.The woman suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and when she appeared in court,,the court had great sympathy for her saying that she'd suffered a psychosis and was very unwell. Angela had two other sons in their 20's who were also compassionate.

The Detective Inspector had stated that it was the saddest and most tragic cases he'd dealt with in 24 years. Angela was stopped from jumping off a bridge,by a passer-by who took her to the police station.
As the DI said,,,there were no winners in this case.Angela is being held in a secure psychiatric unit.

[campion]

To whom it may concern, I do find it rather flippant to be referred to as 'Sonny'.
'Junior' would not appear so patronising and condescending. Indeed Indiana Jones' father so refers to him in 'The Last Crusade'! One can be classed as a Junior Reporter, or a Junior School Teacher, without deference.
Can someone help me with the mention of 'Bet/Nod', or was it 'Net/Bod'? 
Is that a Spoonerism? That may account for a propensity for stirring.

Howsomeever, back on Topic in a roundabout manner. As a left handed golfer uses left handed clubs, would a left-

handed rifelman suffer the ejected bullet cases whistling across his visage. Would a left handed door smasher -inner need a
left handed sledge hammer?

Indeed he would not.  From information in Police manuals and guidance videos, the 'Breacher of the door' I.e. assaulter Woodcock, as is proclaimed, will have the latest in the then building breaching technology. This would have been an effective ram, applied in the lock vicinity of the door. The result of this is to effect opening, by the keeper in the door jamb being smashed off.
Hopefully it will be agreed that there does not appear to much damage to have been caused to the open door in enigmatic Picture Kitchen 13.
In my considered opinion TFG officer Woodcock, wielding the 'ram', may not have been first through the door. It is likely to have been Collins, who is reported to have looked through the window, thus seeing a 'female', and having the advantage of already seeing the layout of the interior of the Laundryroom/scullery.
Please remember dawn occurred at 5.30a.m., and it is estimated that entry to WHF was made at approx 6a.m., when Jeremy was taken on the 'goose chase' to Tolleshunt d'Arcy village to phone Muggy.