Grief

[maggie]

I don't think that Mat is a liar but believe that he may have been deceived by others.

I appreciate your generosity of thinking Neil but I think you will find Mat knows exactly what he's doing.

[Neil]

I appreciate your generosity of thinking Neil but I think you will find Mat knows exactly what he's doing.

I wonder if Mat regrets introducing himself on the forum, in the manner he did.  Not that it upset me, I hasten to add.

[Jane]

Went out for the daily run a short while ago and bumped into an acquaintance from up the road.  We stopped to talk and she started telling me about her daughter's labrador that died unexpectedly, only 2 yoa, and that she had cried.  Apparently the vet thinks the dog died from rat or mushroom poisoning picked up whilst in local fields.

She then said that she finds it easy to cry when animals die but rarely does when humans die and that her mother had said it would do her good to cry over losing her husband who died about 2/3 years ago!!!

Hi, Egap. My first guess would be that the tears she sheds for animals are those she cannot shed for her late husband OR perhaps her husband had been ill for some time and all her tears had been spent then OR maybe she disliked him so much, for whatever reason, that she doesn't think he's worth her tears. As you say, grieving takes different forms for different people.

[susan]

Hi april  talking of ways of dealing with death.  I loved my Dad so much and looked after him for about 3 months before his death.  When the undertaker came to my house re. the funeral arrangements I took one look at him and started howling with laughter he looked so ridiculous he had flared trousers on that were a little short his boots had big heals on them plus the tie was into very different lengths  He said this was emotion that had been building up for weeks but it was'ent it was him but I could not say so.  If anybody saw me they would think she cannot have loved her Dad but I did and missed him immensely.

[maggie]

Sometimes i am at a loss in exactly how jeremy should have
handeled his presense with the funerals of his family it would have been easier for him not to attend them at all .

I suppose whatever he had done it would have been wrong Mertol. Bet he didn't want to go to any of them, imagine the uproar if he hadn't.  My mum didn't go to my Dad's funeral because she was in her 80s and she couldn't bare the thought of it...she looked after the grandchildren instead...none of the family found this odd.

[guest154]

Hello Maggie, I very much like Susan, she comes across as being a very kind and honest lady.   I would say exactly the same about Jackie.  I wasn't subscribing to the view that Jackie and Susan are the same person, merely making the point that it doesn't really matter if they are. 

I take your point though, my post didn't come across as very sympathetic and Susan does have my full sympathy, this nonsense has carried on for long enough.

I don't think that Mat is a liar but believe that he may have been deceived by others.

Thanks, Neil.

If Grahame and Keira had a plan of action to be-friend me for information then IMO that says more about those two than it does about me. But oh well.

[Jane]

Hi april  talking of ways of dealing with death.  I loved my Dad so much and looked after him for about 3 months before his death.  When the undertaker came to my house re. the funeral arrangements I took one look at him and started howling with laughter he looked so ridiculous he had flared trousers on that were a little short his boots had big heals on them plus the tie was into very different lengths  He said this was emotion that had been building up for weeks but it was'ent it was him but I could not say so.  If anybody saw me they would think she cannot have loved her Dad but I did and missed him immensely.

Susan, I felt sad when my father died, but it was a soaring relief when my mother died. The only guilt I felt was because there was no guilt I could feel. It was as if I'd been released from the crime of not being the daughter she wanted me to be. I felt totally lost when my beloved partner died, but there was absolutely NO feelings of guilt. I had fulfilled everything he had asked of me. Time doesn't so much heal, as put things in a place where they can be more easily handled.

[Bridget]

Mat. I have just seen what you have said on the other forum. Susan is NOT Jackie. She has proven that to me this afternoon beyond all doubt, not that she should have had to do so. I don't know what you think you saw re the posts, but you were mistaken, as was Keira. You have been given the benefit of the doubt here over the 'hacking Maggie' thing, and also the PM you sent to Jackie (and on that subject I will say right now that I don't believe Jackie edited that PM), so even if you don't believe me re Susan I'm asking you to give her the benefit of the doubt and back off, both here and over there.

[guest154]

Mat. I have just seen what you have said on the other forum. Susan is NOT Jackie. She has proven that to me this afternoon beyond all doubt, not that she should have had to do so. I don't know what you think you saw re the posts, but you were mistaken, as was Keira. You have been given the benefit of the doubt here over the 'hacking Maggie' thing, and also the PM you sent to Jackie (and on that subject I will say right now that I don't believe Jackie edited that PM), so even if you don't believe me re Susan I'm asking you to give her the benefit of the doubt and back off, both here and over there.

If I am wrong, I apologise to Susan. But when I went and asked Keira she convinced me and I trusted her.

[guest154]

Mat. I have just seen what you have said on the other forum. Susan is NOT Jackie. She has proven that to me this afternoon beyond all doubt, not that she should have had to do so. I don't know what you think you saw re the posts, but you were mistaken, as was Keira. You have been given the benefit of the doubt here over the 'hacking Maggie' thing, and also the PM you sent to Jackie (and on that subject I will say right now that I don't believe Jackie edited that PM), so even if you don't believe me re Susan I'm asking you to give her the benefit of the doubt and back off, both here and over there.

As for the hacking - I wasn't given the benefit of the doubt. They realised they were wrong.

[Bridget]

If I am wrong, I apologise to Susan. But when I went and asked Keira she convinced me and I trusted her.

Don't try to blame it on Keira, you're the one making the accusations, not her.

[guest154]

Oh, I'm not. I fully believe/d that Susan was Jackie and I don't think I was the first person to say so.

[susan]

Hi april  so sad you felt like that about your Mother It is funny but I loved my parents and was so good to them but still had feelings of guilt I have a lovely son and have been a good Mother but always think I good have done better.  I think it is a thing that comes with age.

[lookout]

Hi Susan,,,I was just full of anger when my husband died. I'd done my grieving during the 5/6 years that he was ill. My anger was made worse when I rang an out of hours locum at night to come and verify his death,as I had him at home as he'd requested. The GP on the other end of the phone asked " what do you mean,he's dead ? ". I then bit my tongue and asked him to come along and see for himself.
I couldn't believe that the doctor couldn't understand what I was telling him. He was about 26.! Must have drawn the short straw that night.  He was dressed for the occasion in a long black overcoat that was nearly down to his ankles.

[packagebuilder]

She lowered herself into sending naughty messages (which I didn't reply to) just to get close to me? Even though I knew there was a BIG age gap - so wasn't interested in it? Oh please Grahame.

She shamed herself, and then quite that account.

thats alright I am more attracted to older ladies! 

But I believe Susan is who she say she is!! just look at her post cost!! or what ever this is about what going on!!!?