Grief

[grahameb]

Well I've said my piece and have told the truth and now lets put it to bed. This is definitely going to be my last post on the subject and am going to devote my energies to the case itself.

[Roch]

Well I've said my piece and have told the truth and now lets put it to bed. This is definitely going to be my last post on the subject and am going to devote my energies to the case itself.

Top marks. 

[maggie]

She lowered herself into sending naughty messages (which I didn't reply to) just to get close to me? Even though I knew there was a BIG age gap - so wasn't interested in it? Oh please Grahame.

She shamed herself, and then quite that account.

Remember to take everything mat says with a pinch of salt.  There is always another side to his stories...ther one where he is the instigator not the victim. imo

[Neil]

Hi Mat

I think you're being rather ungentlemanly.  Assuming Nuala sent you some 'flirty' messages why do you feel the need to tell all?  I feel sure Rochford would never betray me in such a fashion 

You once posted that you were concerned about the sort of females that your son might encounter and you might do well to reflect on your own behaviour.

I know some posters have been a bit anti Mat.  I didn't go along with this and at times have stood up for you but I really feel the above is below the belt and if anyone should feel ashamed it is you.

I would bet that Mat could have posted much worse!

He was quite obviously backed into a corner and labelled a liar.

By the way, why would it matter IF Susan were Jackie?  Whilst on the subject, did Caroline R used to post as Chokchockeira?  Finally, for the record and in response to some of Margot's earlier posts, I am Neil and am not and have never been John!

[maggie]

I would bet that Mat could have posted much worse!

He was quite obviously backed into a corner and labelled a liar.

By the way, why would it matter IF Susan were Jackie?  Whilst on the subject, did Caroline R used to post as Chokchockeira?  Finally, for the record and in response to some of Margot's earlier posts, I am Neil and am not and have never been John!

You surprise me Neil, I thought you were Susan's friend, she was very upset by being accused of being someone other than herself, therefore some people supported and defended her when she wasn't online to defend herself.  Mat built his own corner, as usual, serve him right if he got stuck in it. IMHO

[maggie]

Went out for the daily run a short while ago and bumped into an acquaintance from up the road.  We stopped to talk and she started telling me about her daughter's labrador that died unexpectedly, only 2 yoa, and that she had cried.  Apparently the vet thinks the dog died from rat or mushroom poisoning picked up whilst in local fields.

She then said that she finds it easy to cry when animals die but rarely does when humans die and that her mother had said it would do her good to cry over losing her husband who died about 2/3 years ago!!!

Hi egap, that sounds a little strange   and not very healthy in my opinion...think her mum may be right.

[mertol22]

Remember to take everything mat says with a pinch of salt.  There is always another side to his stories...ther one where he is the instigator not the victim. imo

Make that a keg of salt  maggie.

[maggie]

Make that a keg of salt  maggie.

  How was the boot sale Mertol?

[susan]

Hi Mags  I can to an extent understand what egap is saying whenever I have lost a pet (who were like my children) I broke my heart for weeks.  I think it is they look at you in such a way as to say can you please help me.  With my parents I knew it was coming for months and they did not have to look at me like that because our Doctor helped them.  I shed tears but it was such a different kind of loss and I will never forget the feeling and even years on I can get very sad

[maggie]

Hi Maggie

But is it?  As I understand it people grieve in different ways.  I'm sure she did mourn the loss of her husband but just not with lots of  . 

Isn't this partly the reason JB was convicted ie his behaviour didn't fit with what others thought it shld be for someone who had just lost 5 members of his adoptive family?

Well yes and I have argued strongly that people react to shock in different ways but a death of a husband may cause a shock reaction for a certain length of time but you would think to never have shed a tear over it in all that time is odd.  The massive trauma that Jermy Bamber had to deal with was a slightly different kettle of fish but he did shed tears.  I have seen partners of people who have died behave very strangely but it was shock, it is unlikely it lasted for 3 years!

[mertol22]

  How was the boot sale Mertol?

it was ok maggie bought 2 collectable Toyah singles, weather tip top, going to one sunday at the local football ground, can be mundane but sometimes a gem can be snapped up just going to tesco in a few mins for some fruit.

[Neil]

You surprise me Neil, I thought you were Susan's friend, she was very upset by being accused of being someone other than herself, therefore some people supported and defended her when she wasn't online to defend herself.  Mat built his own corner, as usual, serve him right if he got stuck in it. IMHO

Hello Maggie, I very much like Susan, she comes across as being a very kind and honest lady.   I would say exactly the same about Jackie.  I wasn't subscribing to the view that Jackie and Susan are the same person, merely making the point that it doesn't really matter if they are. 

I take your point though, my post didn't come across as very sympathetic and Susan does have my full sympathy, this nonsense has carried on for long enough.

I don't think that Mat is a liar but believe that he may have been deceived by others.

[mertol22]

Sometimes i am at a loss in exactly how jeremy should have
handeled his presense with the funerals of his family it would have been easier for him not to attend them at all .

[susan]

Hi Neil Thanks for your support I thought you had gone off me

[Neil]

Hi Neil Thanks for your support I thought you had gone off me

Hello Susan, no chance!