Did Sheila Suffer An Attachment Disorder Resulting In Affectionless Psychopathy?

[simong]

I wonder when she had the breast enhancement and whether she had it done for her own personal reasons or if an agent suggested it would help her career?

[Jane]

I wonder when she had the breast enhancement and whether she had it done for her own personal reasons or if an agent suggested it would help her career?

It also begs the question of what sort of model she saw herself as being. The picture of her in the bra top and sarong skirt shows a very small breasted girl, but I can clearly recall that in the late 70s, early 80s I was doing my best to disguise my assets because less was definitely more, especially for those aspiring couture models. As I said in a previous post, I get the impression that Sheila dabbled at employment because earning wasn't a real necesssity, so it's quite possible that breast enhancement was a personal choice.

[lookout]

There'd have been a few unscrupulous blighters in that trade too,,who'd want more than head and shoulders. Just as there are today.
I can't see Sheila having fallen prey to those characters,,,though she did work in a " shady " cafe/restaurant where skimpy was the order of the day,,,waiting on lecherous old men.

I think it was more to keep her habit going,than being needy.

[Jane]

Hi April1

The above is something I've often wondered.  Sheila was attractive but I'm not sure her facial features/physique were model material and more importantly to succeed in that world you surely need to project through the lens bags of pma and confidence.  Plus an ability to say no to all the things that no doubt go on in that sort of environment that are not helpful to being a successful model eg drugs.  As far as I can see these are all things that Sheila sadly lacked. 

We often hear about these photos JB and/or Brett attempted to peddle but did Sheila actually ever undertake any paid modelling assignments? 

How did she come to get involved in modelling?  Was she spotted by a scout or did she or someone else suggest it?

I'm sure even successful models eg Elle Macpherson (still looks good at 49) had to take knock backs from time to time, don't think Sheila cld have coped.

Hi, egap. My feeling is that Sheila had little in the way of self discipline. Americans would call her "flakey", not a word I like, but it does seem oddly appropriate.If she wasn't entirely focused, ie, turning up late or not at all, wanting to leave early, not having her kit with her she would have got a reputation but few assignment. It's my understanding that pretty girls from wealthy backgrounds who aren't bluestockings rarely gravitate towards permanent employment, in order that they can be free for weekend house parties, last minute holidays and sudden marriage proposals!!!

I don't think she could have had an agent because I feel certain that one would have come forward to offer an insight to her after the event. I think it more than likely that she had a series of professional photos taken and took them to various agencies.

[grahameb]

I wonder when she had the breast enhancement and whether she had it done for her own personal reasons or if an agent suggested it would help her career?

I think the pathologist recorded a small scar under one of her breasts? This may not have been enhancement but rather corrective?

[grahameb]

It also begs the question of what sort of model she saw herself as being. The picture of her in the bra top and sarong skirt shows a very small breasted girl, but I can clearly recall that in the late 70s, early 80s I was doing my best to disguise my assets because less was definitely more, especially for those aspiring couture models. As I said in a previous post, I get the impression that Sheila dabbled at employment because earning wasn't a real necesssity, so it's quite possible that breast enhancement was a personal choice.

Looking at her build I should think she was aiming for fashion modelling?

[Jane]

There'd have been a few unscrupulous blighters in that trade too,,who'd want more than head and shoulders. Just as there are today.
I can't see Sheila having fallen prey to those characters,,,though she did work in a " shady " cafe/restaurant where skimpy was the order of the day,,,waiting on lecherous old men.

I think it was more to keep her habit going,than being needy.

Yes, lookout, all of that and without an agent she would have been very vulnerable and as far as her habit was concerned, needy.

[simong]

I think the pathologist recorded a small scar under one of her breasts? This may not have been enhancement but rather corrective?

Sorry posted in the wrong thread but Vanezis says 'There is a scar beneath each breast where implants have been inserted'

[Patti]

But Sheila was a danger to herself if anyone,not to others. Had she ever attacked anyone ever whilst previously in a psychotic state? I would have been more inclined to admit that Sheila might have suffered a psychotic episode that Wednesday morning had she had no Haloperidol in her system,but the autopsy report showed that she had. All indications were that she was calm on the Tuesday evening,and suffering if anything the side-effects of a high dosage of Haloperidol,the vacant stare reported from the shopkeeper in Tiptree,and the conversation she had with Pamela on the telephone. The custody issue again is a matter of dispute;Colin had joint custody of the twins and would have won any court battle hands down,as grandparents have no rights whatsoever over natural parents.Surely Ralph as a magistrate would have known this?

I have re-read the part in Colin's book where Jeremy discusses the telephone call,and Jeremy stated that at the time of the call Jeremy says that he had the impression that Ralph(Nevill) may already have been wounded. In this case it's my opinion that with the welfare of the twins in his mind and Nevill having been able to reach the telephone he would have dialled the three figure number 999 rather than the seven figure number to Jeremy's cottage at Goldhanger,that is if Nevill had that number in his head at all..

Hi Steve those are not my words, they are the words of her doctors and, no matter how hard you try to dismiss it, she was ill. I agree with you, she never hurt anyone, but she certainly frightened people...read her friend's Freddie's statement. This episode which lasted all night through is what led her to be admitted to hospital prior to the tragedy.

To say that she was only a danger to herself is untrue...You don't know that for fact. I base what I say on the documented evidence that is provided. She was not safe to look after her children, they could have come to some harm, this is one of the reasons, they were with Colin. If Sheila had been able, she would have had her children with her, there is no doubt about that. Read Colin's letter to Nevill. Read Freddie's statement. Read the social workers statement. Also read the news of late, there are so many cases similar to that of Sheila.

The last case is that of James Holmes 24 years old. He had never hurt anyone in his life. He was known to be a quiet lad, but was diagnosed as being a paranoid schizophrenic the day before he killed 12 people at a cinema.  He had delusions...but then he cracked, got a gun and blasted away.

Please read up on the illness....it divides the mind into two...one where you are aware and the other were you have no idea of what is happening to you or around you...It is an illness that is so misunderstood and badly researched....27 years on and people still ignore it.

She was a danger Steve, to herself and others....all it takes is a bad episode. 

[maggie]

Hi Patti, great post, so true......it is a tragedy not a crime. imo

[Jane]

Hi Patti, great post, so true......it is a tragedy not a crime. imo

I'll echo that, Maggie. Not certain friend Steve will see it that way, though!!!

[grahameb]

Sorry posted in the wrong thread but Vanezis says 'There is a scar beneath each breast where implants have been inserted'

Oh right. I only quoted from memory. Which is rubbish these days. No excuse, I should have checked.

[mertol22]

It also begs the question of what sort of model she saw herself as being. The picture of her in the bra top and sarong skirt shows a very small breasted girl, but I can clearly recall that in the late 70s, early 80s I was doing my best to disguise my assets because less was definitely more, especially for those aspiring couture models. As I said in a previous post, I get the impression that Sheila dabbled at employment because earning wasn't a real necesssity, so it's quite possible that breast enhancement was a personal choice.

A friend of mine photographs models he thinks Sheila was 70s inspired, a little like Twiggy or those 70s cadburys flake adverts.

[maggie]

I'll echo that, Maggie. Not certain friend Steve will see it that way, though!!!

[maggie]

A friend of mine photographs models he thinks Sheila was 70s inspired, a little like Twiggy or those 70s cadburys flake adverts.

Yes, Mertol, she was right for the flake advert, but Twiggy?  I wouldn't have thought so, maybe a bit Jean Shrimpton....sort of girl nextdoor.....but very pretty and feminine.