Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...

[mike tesko]

I think we can safely say, that the schedule produced by PC Bird himself, showing which of the 223 "MASTER COPY ALBUM" photographs were chosen to go into the "COURT ALBUM" matches exactly the schedule produced by COLP as part of its 1991 - 92 investigation, but that these do not correspond with the evidence / testimony given by PC Bird during Jeremy's trial...

Was PC Bird referring to a different photographic schedule (for example, "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM", containing no fewer than 581 pictures) that has never yet been disclosed? I am drawn to this conclusion, because by reference to his own schedule, and that which was produced by COLP (1991), non of the photographs taken of Sheila were taken until after PC Bird took photographs 23 from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs, but he testified during the trial that such photographs had been taken of Sheila in the main bedroom before he took 23 - but which 23 was he referring to when he testified, 23 from the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM", or 23 from the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" or 23 from the "COURT ALBUM"?

We have copies of the schedule for photographs listed in both the "MASTER COPY" and "the "COURT ALBUM", yet nothing relating to the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM", but PC Bird obviously had access to that information when he testified, and he could have been leaping from one source to another and so on and so forth, which served to confuse the minds of the jury and everyone alike?

[Patti]

Can you post the missing page (37 - 77)?

37 was taken in the main bedroom after index number 38....38, 37...thats the order I believe...


Index number 25 onwards 34,35,31,33,27,37,42,22,26,32,29,38,37 are cross referenced to the index...This follows on from the photo's that were taken in dairy...After that I am lost....

Some of the photo's were not taken by Bird...Many more photo's were not produced at court....

[mike tesko]

37 was taken in the main bedroom after index number 38....38, 37...thats the order I believe...


Index number 25 onwards 34,35,31,33,27,37,42,22,26,32,29,38,37 are cross referenced to the index...This follows on from the photo's that were taken in dairy...After that I am lost....

Some of the photo's were not taken by Bird...Many more photo's were not produced at court....

Imagine how lost and confused the jury must have been having to try to deal with all this?

[Patti]

Imagine how lost and confused the jury must have been having to try to deal with all this?

How complicated is that? I doubt anyone could understand it Mike....Didn't they make it difficult....Some senior said....we will put the photo's in subject order..eh? What a mess!

Anyway, thank you Mike for letting us have all this info...But I am whacked....So good night to you and all...

[mertol22]

How complicated is that? I doubt anyone could understand it Mike....Didn't they make it difficult....Some senior said....we will put the photo's in subject order..eh? What a mess!

Anyway, thank you Mike for letting us have all this info...But I am whacked....So good night to you and all...
A well earned break lil columbo for your last few days postings!

[mike tesko]

Was PC Bird referring to a different photographic schedule (for example, "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM", containing no fewer than 581 pictures) that has never yet been disclosed? I am drawn to this conclusion, because by reference to his own schedule, and that which was produced by COLP (1991), non of the photographs taken of Sheila were taken until after PC Bird took photographs 23 from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs, but he testified during the trial that such photographs had been taken of Sheila in the main bedroom before he took 23 - but which 23 was he referring to when he testified, 23 from the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM", or 23 from the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" or 23 from the "COURT ALBUM"?

We have copies of the schedule for photographs listed in both the "MASTER COPY" and "the "COURT ALBUM", yet nothing relating to the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM", but PC Bird obviously had access to that information when he testified, and he could have been leaping from one source to another and so on and so forth, which served to confuse the minds of the jury and everyone alike?

What becomes clear, by reference to PC Birds double schedule which sets out the photographs which form part of the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" (223) and the corresponding "COURT ALBUM" (50), is that there were / are two photographs referred to in that schedule by the reference number 23?

"Namely, photograph 8 in the "COURT ALBUM" appears to have been photograph 23 from the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" and photograph 23 in the "COURT ALBUM" appears to have been photograph 59 in the "MASTER COPY ALBUM"...

(08) - 23 (taken on 7th August 1985)
(23) - 59 (taken on 7th August 1985)

If for one moment we refer to these different photographic schedules as systems, where the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM" (581) is system (1), the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" (223) is system (2), and the "COURT ALBUM" (50) is system (3), how do we know which system (1, 2, or 3) PC Bird was referring to when he testified during Jeremy's trial, especially so because no-one other than the police and the DPP knew that system (1) existed?

[mike tesko]

What becomes clear, by reference to PC Birds double schedule which sets out the photographs which form part of the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" (223) and the corresponding "COURT ALBUM" (50), is that there were / are two photographs referred to in that schedule by the reference number 23?

"Namely, photograph 8 in the "COURT ALBUM" appears to have been photograph 23 from the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" and photograph 23 in the "COURT ALBUM" appears to have been photograph 59 in the "MASTER COPY ALBUM"...

(08) - 23 (taken on 7th August 1985)
(23) - 59 (taken on 7th August 1985)

If for one moment we refer to these different photographic schedules as systems, where the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM" (581) is system (1), the "MASTER COPY ALBUM" (223) is system (2), and the "COURT ALBUM" (50) is system (3), how do we know which system (1, 2, or 3) PC Bird was referring to when he testified during Jeremy's trial, especially so because no-one other than the police and the DPP knew that system (1) existed?

Why did PC Bird testify during Jeremy's trial in October 1986, to the effect that pictures of Sheila in the bedroom were taken before he took photograph 23 ( a picture that he took from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs which shows the rifle leaning against the bedroom window) which contradicts the information in systems (2) and (3), where it becomes clear by reference to those systems that he did not take any photographs of Sheila in the bedroom, until after he had taken photograph 23 (described above)?

[mike tesko]

Why did PC Bird testify during Jeremy's trial in October 1986, to the effect that pictures of Sheila in the bedroom were taken before he took photograph 23 ( a picture that he took from the vantage point of the middle landing of the main stairs which shows the rifle leaning against the bedroom window) which contradicts the information in systems (2) and (3), where it becomes clear by reference to those systems that he did not take any photographs of Sheila in the bedroom, until after he had taken photograph 23 (described above)?

The only possible explanation I can think of for him saying what he said (which contradicts the content of systems (2) and (3)), is that he was relying upon information and detail contained in system (1) which was not made available to the defence, or to the court which was trying the matter? Also, what becomes apparent is that in system (1) there was information which suggests that PC Bird did take photographs of Sheila's body in the bedroom before he took photograph 23 (as described above), but for one reason or another the police and the DPP did not want the defence or the court to know what the contents of system (1) were, was, or is?

This allows us to draw certain undeniable, unchallengeable, inferences, from all this information contained between and in systems (3), (2), and (1), namely that the police have deceived everyone about when certain photographs relating to Sheila's body in the bedroom were taken, and at the heart of this matter was / is the point when PC Bird took photographs 23 from the vantage point of the middle landing on the main stairs, which shows the rifle that fired the fatal bullet under Sheila's chin that killed her, was resting against the bedroom window...

Now...

All that needs to be identified, is which photographs of Sheila in the bedroom were taken before PC Bird took 23, and which were taken afterwards? Why did PC Bird visit the main bedroom twice and take two lots of pictures of Sheila? One lot before he took 23, and another lot after he took 23? If we rely upon the contents of system (2) and (3), photographs 27 and 32, were not taken until after PC Bird took photograph 23, and no other photographs existed, or have been disclosed, before he took 23. This then raise the question why did Essex police not produce a schedule showing the order with which the 581 photographs contained in the "SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM" were taken? This is a significant feature of the case which I believe could open the door for the truth to be revealed concerning how Sheila died in the bedroom inside whf after she was shot under the chin by use of the rifle from the bedroom window, by a police officer at around 9:30am...

Any photographs which could possibly have been taken of Sheila in the main bedroom before PC Bird took photographs 23, can only be listed in system (1), because they certainly do not exist at all in systems (2) and (3)...

[mike tesko]

It's a paradox - PC Bird took photographs of Sheila in the bedroom, after he took photograph 23 (by a reliance on systems 2 and 3), as described above, and non were taken beforehand, and PC Bird took photographs of Sheila in the bedroom before he took photographs 23, which are the same photographs mentioned above, described in systems (2) and (3)?

[mike tesko]

It's a paradox - PC Bird took photographs of Sheila in the bedroom, after he took photograph 23 (by a reliance on systems 2 and 3), as described above, and non were taken beforehand, and PC Bird took photographs of Sheila in the bedroom before he took photographs 23, which are the same photographs mentioned above, described in systems (2) and (3)?

However...

When you know that police took pictures of Sheila on the bed, and that they moved her to the bedroom floor, and that the rifle which was spotted by WPC Julia Jeapes leaning against the bedroom window some 15 minutes, or so, before the raid team set foot into the farmhouse (around 7:30am) had / has fired the fatal bullet (PV/19), under Sheila's chin, it becomes possible to understand/visualize which photographs were taken before PC Bird took 23, and which were taken afterwards? Since photographs 27 and 32 could not have been taken before 23 (systems (2) and (3) refer), some other as yet undisclosed pictures must have been and were taken beforehand - photographs which Essex police, and the DPP, and all the BIGB, do not want Bamber, or the courts, or the general public at large to be given access to, or made aware of them...

Lets put it as simply as I can, either side of photograph 23 being taken by PC Bird, he took a series of photographs, before, and after, that picture (23). Sheila was on the bed before he took 23, and on the floor after he took 23. Proof which supports this is contained in his testimony from the trial, and in the schedules (2) and (3) already identified. If I throw in the copy image of Sheila on the bed, the picture is complete...

Game over, or what...

[mike tesko]

Before that comes to fruition, however, perhaps it might be worth looking more closely at another indexed schedule produced by the COLP INVESTIGATION, relating specifically to all photographs taken by Essex police relating to this investigation:-

















"Blank spaces where detail has been edited out, and another photgraphic album not copied"?

[Bridget]

I don't know if this is relevant, but they are referring to two albums in the court transcript of Bird's evidence. The 'green' one, which is what you have been referring to as court album (50) and also a grey one which seems to have at least 26 photos.

[mike tesko]

I don't know if this is relevant, but they are referring to two albums in the court transcript of Bird's evidence. The 'green' one, which is what you have been referring to as court album (50) and also a grey one which seems to have at least 26 photos.

same album with different coloured divides, I think, separating crime scene photographs, from ones taken at mortuary, and elsewhere, etc...

[Bridget]

same album with different coloured divides, I think, separating crime scene photographs, from ones taken at mortuary, and elsewhere, etc...

You might be right about the dividers, but the 50 photos we've been discussing make up the green one, then there are at least 26 photos in the grey one. In the green one photo 23 is the view of the rifle through the door, in the grey one it's a shot of the gun cupboard. Similarly, 26 in the green is Sheila and June, and in the grey 26 is the bike. The mortuary photos seeem to be in yet another one called exhibit 28.

[mike tesko]

You might be right about the dividers, but the 50 photos we've been discussing make up the green one, then there are at least 26 photos in the grey one. In the green one photo 23 is the view of the rifle through the door, in the grey one it's a shot of the gun cupboard. Similarly, 26 in the green is Sheila and June, and in the grey 26 is the bike. The mortuary photos seeem to be in yet another one called exhibit 28.

Yeah, photographs, inside different coloured dividers, for use as part of prosecutions case, to support different features of their case - divide and conquer, that is what they did, they produced all these different albums, some without indexed referencing, to help them cover up for the other far more crucial images which they deliberately kept back from everyone - and I am talking of withheld photographs totalling 358, not disclosed or mentioned at all in either system (2) and or (3) schedules...