Rifle flush with body, gun barrel under chin, clue...

[Roch]

Mike do you expect us to believe that Sheila shot herself once in the kitchen,then proceeded upstairs yet with no traces of any of her blood in the kitchen,on the stairway or landing?

Who's word have word have got for that?

[rhodes]

To summarize.  The evidence fits a murder and all this nonsense about Sheila being shot in the kitchen and walking upstairs is pure fiction as is the idea that a police officer shot her in the neck.   Police marksmen dont shoot people in the neck and especially from such an awkard angle and they most certainly dont do it with someone elses gun.  There wasnt a sound from the house from the moment the police arrived, no shouting no screaming no gunshots nothing.  The whole proposition you have invented is ridiculous.

[Roch]

To summarize.  The evidence fits a murder and all this nonsense about Sheila being shot in the kitchen and walking upstairs is pure fiction as is the idea that a police officer shot her in the neck.   Police marksmen dont shoot people in the neck and especially from such an awkard angle and they most certainly dont do it with someone elses gun.  There wasnt a sound from the house from the moment the police arrived, no shouting no screaming no gunshots nothing.  The whole proposition you have invented is ridiculous.

You're comparing the shot to a deliberate shot.

[rhodes]

Get a life, stop being so stupid, of course there was / is a bloodstain on the rear of Sheila's nightdress - if you do not know the basic facts about the so called evidence in this case, how the hell can you arrive at the conclusions and speculation that you have / do? I suggest you go back to the other forum and tell as many lies as you can think up...

The only blood staining was to the front and side as shown in the photos that are posted on this very forum.  The pathologists report makes no mention of any rear blood staining either on the deceased or on her clothing.  I dont do lies just evidence.

[rhodes]

You're comparing the shot to a deliberate shot.

Do you think it was accidental?

[Steve_uk]

Which just goes to show what you know about the case, of course there exists photographs of Sheila's body on the bed, why do you think police burnt the blankets and the mattress from the bed in the main bedroom? Where do you think the bloodstain on the rear of Sheila's nightdress came from, how could there not be a corresponding stain on the bedroom carpet beneath where PC Bird ended up photographing her body there on the floor next to the bed? There is / was no corresponding bloodstain on the carpet because she was laid on the bed and the corresponding blood stain was on the mattress and blankets of the bed...

How could Sheila have been shot an d killed there on the bedroom floor and all this blood be present on the back of her nightdress, but no such bloodstain on the bedroom carpet beneath where PC Bird took pictures of her body insitu?

Get a brain and stop being pathetic...

Why would there be blood on the back of Sheila's nightdress if she lay down by the bedside cabinet and shot herself in the neck? It was the bible and the notes which forensics claimed had been put there after her death.

[Roch]

Do you think it was accidental?

I don't think anything.  Mike Tesko is referring to the mishandling of a rifle, during a training exercise.

[mike tesko]

Mike do you expect us to believe that Sheila shot herself once in the kitchen,then proceeded upstairs yet with no traces of any of her blood in the kitchen,on the stairway or landing?

You do not know what you are talking about, police refused to release the full SOC report (handwritten version), and so you do not know that what you are saying is true? The very same argument can be applied to the lack of blood from Ralph in those same locations? Blood which ran and flowed from the initial wound to the right side of her neck, became focussed in the fold of Sheila's right arm and caused the bloodstain on the upper right hand side of her nightdress. She walked out of the kitchen and up to the bedroom, and collapsed on the bed - you believe what you want to...

[rhodes]

I don't think anything.  Mike Tesko is referring to the mishandling of a rifle, during a training exercise.

So you think he thinks someone shot her when she was already dead?   Excuse me for a moment.   Do you really think trainee coppers would be allowed anywhere near a loaded rifle during a training exercise??   Thats funny.   

[rhodes]

You do not know what you are talking about, police refused to release the full SOC report (handwritten version), and so you do not know that what you are saying is true? The very same argument can be applied to the lack of blood from Ralph in those same locations? Blood which ran and flowed from the initial wound to the right side of her neck, became focussed in the fold of Sheila's right arm and caused the bloodstain on the upper right hand side of her nightdress. She walked out of the kitchen and up to the bedroom, and collapsed on the bed - you believe what you want to...

Get a grip.   Nobody and I mean nobody walks anywhere with a gunshot to their spine.  That theory went out the window with noddy. 

[Roch]

So you think he thinks someone shot her when she was already dead?   Excuse me for a moment.   Do you really think trainee coppers would be allowed anywhere near a loaded rifle during a training exercise??   Thats funny.   

No, he thinks she was collapsed, unconscious.

[mike tesko]

The only blood staining was to the front and side as shown in the photos that are posted on this very forum.  The pathologists report makes no mention of any rear blood staining either on the deceased or on her clothing.  I dont do lies just evidence.

I suggest you take another swig of that whiskey you are drinking and study the following evidence at the following link which confirms that there was / is a bloodstain on the rear of Sheila's nightdress...

(1) - http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=18751;image

[mike tesko]

Why would there be blood on the back of Sheila's nightdress if she lay down by the bedside cabinet and shot herself in the neck? It was the bible and the notes which forensics claimed had been put there after her death.

If Sheila was shot there on the bedroom floor next to the bedside cabinet, how could there be blood on the rear of her nightdress that was not transferred on to the bedroom carpet beneath where her body was later photographed?

Think about it long and hard before you say anything further...

[mike tesko]

Get a grip.   Nobody and I mean nobody walks anywhere with a gunshot to their spine.  That theory went out the window with noddy.

There wasn't no bullet in her spine - where did you get that silly idea from?

And besides...

that ain't what Professor Knight said about it...

[Roch]

There is something wrong with your theory Mike.