Imagine if court was deceived over the claim there was no call from whf to JB?

[maggie]

Hi maggie.....wonder if Susan would be interested in a garden pole? lol 

I should think she needs to wash her mouth out with soap! ..... well he has got lovely eyes...bit old now tho'.

[nugnug]

Hi nugnug if it could be proved that Ralph phoned Jeremy at the time Jeremy said he did that would prove Jeremy did not commit the murders at WHF he was home at Goldhanger.

well it really all hinges on this phonecall if ralph dident make that call then jeremy must be guilty if he did make then its almost certan proof of inocence.

i know im stateing the obvios here but i think it needs to keep being said.

[Patti]

I would have assumed that both the prosecution and defence would have looked into the alleged phonecall from WHF to JB in Goldhanger. The 2002 appeal document says the technology was unavailable. Looks like everyone has been deceived.

Hi Simon.. nice to see you posting.

What interests me is the fact BT could bill you in 1985, knowing the cost of each call, or the time spent on each call and what time of day that call was made....So in order for them to bill you, there must have been some way of checking, otherwise customers would all have had a guessed bill....Hope you understand that...

[susan]

Hi nugnug  I agree with you and I am convinced that Ralph did make the call to Jeremy and it was logged but that evidence seems to have disappeared we need to keep talking about it infact as you have read Caroline has contacted BT to see if calls were registered in 1985 so we shall see what comes back.

[Patti]

I should think she needs to wash her mouth out with soap! ..... well he has got lovely eyes...bit old now tho'.

I haven't noticed maggie....I try not to let his eyes catch me out, or I would be flirting with him myself, but don't tell our Mertol lol 

Carbolic soap..is it still for sale?

[maggie]

Hi Simon.. nice to see you posting.

What interests me is the fact BT could bill you in 1985, knowing the cost of each call, or the time spent on each call and what time of day that call was made....So in order for them to bill you, there must have been some way of checking, otherwise customers would all have had a guessed bill....Hope you understand that...

I think Patti there was obviously a metered call log, as Mike says which logged each call made from each number. There were computer's tho they were still pretty enormous for dealing with these sorts of things.  As you say they had to have some record so they could bill you and surely if you queried your phone bill there must have been a way of them checking it.  By 1985 we were reasonably sophisticated.

[Patti]

I think Patti there was obviously a metered call log, as Mike says which logged each call made from each number. There were computer's tho they were still pretty enormous for dealing with these sorts of things.  As you say they had to have some record so they could bill you and surely if you queried your phone bill there must have been a way of them checking it.  By 1985 we were reasonably sophisticated.

I think so maggie, otherwise all the customers could have been charges for calls they did not make.  Surely if there was a call made on the 7th August from WHF they would have been able to track it......as being an off peak call...So little was investigated. 

[mike tesko]

I think Patti there was obviously a metered call log, as Mike says which logged each call made from each number. There were computer's tho they were still pretty enormous for dealing with these sorts of things.  As you say they had to have some record so they could bill you and surely if you queried your phone bill there must have been a way of them checking it.  By 1985 we were reasonably sophisticated.

Yes - correct, don't let anybody try to blind you from knowing the truth...

[mike tesko]

I think so maggie, otherwise all the customers could have been charges for calls they did not make.  Surely if there was a call made on the 7th August from WHF they would have been able to track it......as being an off peak call...So little was investigated. 

You have hit the nail on the head...

[nugnug]

arnt calls to the police free though.

[mike tesko]

well it really all hinges on this phonecall if ralph dident make that call then jeremy must be guilty if he did make then its almost certan proof of inocence.

i know im stateing the obvios here but i think it needs to keep being said.

What is needed is an in depth review of what records (metered call logs) could be obtained, were obtained, which was the source for bill calculation at the relevant time when these shootings took place?

I imagine receiving a telephone bill for £3500, and the customer not being able to query it?

[Roch]

You have hit the nail on the head...

Isn't that unbelievably slack of the defence?  It's 27 years down the line.

[mike tesko]

arnt calls to the police free though.

Not the ones dialled to a police station...

[mike tesko]

Isn't that unbelievably slack of the defence?  It's 27 years down the line.

Why should a suspect / convicted person carry the can for negligence on the part of his legal team? How can that be regarded as being fair?

[nugnug]

are yes of course your right.

so if the call was made it should be on the phone bill.