If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...

[Roch]

Close - it wasn't a test. I doubt he came straight out with the assertion that he would kill them, he probably started with whinging about them, built up to saying he hated them, then to wishing them harm and then wanting them dead. I'm not saying he did it consciously, but as his trust in her grew he felt he could be more and more open about his true feelings.

I don't deny that her 'prick of conscience' was probably triggered by the end of the relationship, but that doesn't make her a liar. Who among us haven't had our eyes opened to someone's real character at some point in time - and very often following a falling out.

Ok thanks for explaining.  Taking an explanatory approach would help you get some of your points across better on here, imho... and if you don't mind me saying so 

[Bridget]

Ok thanks for explaining.  Taking an explanatory approach would help you get some of your points across better on here, imho... and if you don't mind me saying so 

I try, but it's not always easy under fire

[Roch]

I try, but it's not always easy under fire

I'm pretty sure that you will be under fire from me soon.  You are after all, deep behind enemy lines...   

[Bridget]

I'm pretty sure that you will be under fire from me soon.  You are after all, deep behind enemy lines...   

I know.. and much of the time without back up!

[Patti]

Patti, hi. I'm trying to get inside JMs head. I can go along with her not believing him capable of such a thing, but might she not have wanted reassurance or did alarm bells not ring, was she really able to pretend those menacing words had never been said. OK!! Job done, supposedly. He rings her with the "good" news. What would be expected of a well bought up young lady who is training to be a teacher when she discovers her boyfriend has slaughtered his family? At the very least I'd expect her to run like Hell to anywhere other than near to her murdering swine of a boyfriend, but no!!!! she stays by his side, presumably still sleeping with him and accepts money from him to go on holiday. Is that collusion or being an accessory after the fact? I think it more likely she negotiated a deal that extricated her from the excrement by dropping him in it.

Hi April

I don't know much about JM....You might not believe me, but I have not read her statements yet. However, I did read the News of the World article. What did she say, Jeremy never admitted he was guilty to me.

April, she loved him, no doubt about that and, I honestly believe Jeremy loved her.  If what she said is true, then I have no doubt in my mind that she should have faced trial too.  It was unusual for the jury to be aware of previous offences, but in this case they were aware, she had sold drugs and helped steal money. She wasn't let off lightly was she? she was let off big time....and got paid for it.

Never trust a woman that had been scorned, she could even commit murder.

I agree with you april, if only we could get inside her head....

[Roch]

I know.. and much of the time without back up!

It's not our fault that there's loads of morons on your side     We have no choice but to filter them out.  So you'll have to make do with the handful of non morons allowed to post on here.

[Patti]

I know.. and much of the time without back up!

Lol.....Have you anywhere to duck Bridget? 

[lookout]

There's something about 3am phone-calls which invariably spell the death of someone. My sis-in-law had gone into cardiac arrest at that time,which meant a quick dash to the hospital.
It's when people are at their lowest ebb,,,and this is when I think of Sheila and her unsettled and scared state. How that girl must have felt,,I can only imagine,having sat with patients at this hour,,strangely enough,attempted suicides on drips. ( It was like daytime to me )

Anyone waking at this hour takes time to adjust and also " hear properly " too,because it's easy to miss words when you're half-asleep.
There must have been one hell of a row at WHF that night. It's harder to get an overall picture of what happened because of not knowing for sure who died first. I'm surprised that wasn't entered as I think it's important.

Garages are a rip-off,,if you allow them to be,,but how an extra £70 can be justified I don't know. That's terrible.Query it with the Office of Fair Trading.
My daughter will have to pay-up,,her alternator has gone,oooops.

[Bridget]

It's not our fault that there's loads of morons on your side     We have no choice but to filter them out.  So you'll have to make do with the handful of non morons allowed to post on here.

Gee thanks... 

Lol.....Have you anywhere to duck Bridget? 

Behind you if necessary... are you up to protecting me from Roch when he's been on the home brew?

[Patti]

There's something about 3am phone-calls which invariably spell the death of someone. My sis-in-law had gone into cardiac arrest at that time,which meant a quick dash to the hospital.
It's when people are at their lowest ebb,,,and this is when I think of Sheila and her unsettled and scared state. How that girl must have felt,,I can only imagine,having sat with patients at this hour,,strangely enough,attempted suicides on drips. ( It was like daytime to me )

Anyone waking at this hour takes time to adjust and also " hear properly " too,because it's easy to miss words when you're half-asleep.
There must have been one hell of a row at WHF that night. It's harder to get an overall picture of what happened because of not knowing for sure who died first. I'm surprised that wasn't entered as I think it's important.

Garages are a rip-off,,if you allow them to be,,but how an extra £70 can be justified I don't know. That's terrible.Query it with the Office of Fair Trading.
My daughter will have to pay-up,,her alternator has gone,oooops.

I think as we get older we are more aware that calls at that time of night mean something. I wonder why BT weren't pressed for data...surely they could have traced a call in 1985.....Blimey, we had the technology to phone someone on the moon....so they say..lolol

You know me Lookout, I was so angry....with my garage to the point I had told them that I believed they had ripped me off in the past....I shall never go back there and they haven't heard the last of me either, for I told them I was reporting them.....

[Patti]

Gee thanks... 

Behind you if necessary... are you up to protecting me from Roch when he's been on the home brew?

Oh dear! You have put me on the spot there Bridget....If Roch is on his home brew, I might be with him, tis the drink you see....hahahahahha

[Bridget]

Oh dear! You have put me on the spot there Bridget....If Roch is on his home brew, I might be with him, tis the drink you see....hahahahahha

Ah... I get you - a sort of p*ssed pincer movement...I'llwatch out for that.

I'd like to know where you found a garage that would even fart in your general direction for 25 quid!

[mertol22]

There's something about 3am phone-calls which invariably spell the death of someone. My sis-in-law had gone into cardiac arrest at that time,which meant a quick dash to the hospital.
It's when people are at their lowest ebb,,,and this is when I think of Sheila and her unsettled and scared state. How that girl must have felt,,I can only imagine,having sat with patients at this hour,,strangely enough,attempted suicides on drips. ( It was like daytime to me )

Anyone waking at this hour takes time to adjust and also " hear properly " too,because it's easy to miss words when you're half-asleep.
There must have been one hell of a row at WHF that night. It's harder to get an overall picture of what happened because of not knowing for sure who died first. I'm surprised that wasn't entered as I think it's important.

Garages are a rip-off,,if you allow them to be,,but how an extra £70 can be justified I don't know. That's terrible.Query it with the Office of Fair Trading.
My daughter will have to pay-up,,her alternator has gone,oooops.

Its a long road to arrive at a decent garage, best one i know is in Lincoln.

[lookout]

Its a long road to arrive at a decent garage, best one i know is in Lincoln.

Ooooh,just a wee bit too far,Mertol,,but thanks anyway.

Do you feel as though you've been through the mangle.?

[mertol22]

Ooooh,just a wee bit too far,Mertol,,but thanks anyway.

Do you feel as though you've been through the mangle.?

Well ive put on hold a nightly Dallas episode as im just forehead hot, ill pull through thanks for asking and an early nite to all.