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Offline mike tesko

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One of the reasons why the CCRC may have rejected the latest expert ballistic / medico evidence could be that they felt they might be drawn in to the argument that the silencer, blood and paint evidence which was used and relied on to great effect, was and had been manufactured by police, family and prosecution expert witnesses. This could help to explain why the CCRC refused to exercise thier power to get an independant expert report to nullify the conclusions of the Arizona tests?
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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 08:11:AM »
Without the silencer, blood, and paint evidence the case against Jeremy collapses...

For this reason the powers that be will do everything within thier power to prevent the truth about how and why this evidence was manufactured? The CCRC is just an Agency set up by the State to protect itself, and to try and prevent cases like this one from damaging the image of the Criminal Justice System...
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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2012, 08:40:AM »
The poxy excuses the police have come up with for why the exhibit reference for the silencer had to be changed / altered from, SBJ/1 to DB/1, and then altered again from DB/1 to DRB/1, quite frankly do not hold water, and was introduced long after the trial as nothing but a smokescreen, to hide for the fact that there were two different similar looking Parker hale silencers in police possession which were present at the scene at the time of the shootings. One that was seized by DS Stan Jones (SBJ/1),  and the other found a month or so later (DRB/1) by David Boutflour. In order to merge both of these silencers together and present them as one silencer, an intermediary exhibit reference of DB/1 was introduced, along with a cover story which went along the lines that the exhibit reference had to be changed from one to the other because of a clash between various witnesses having exhibits with the same exhibit references, SBJ/1 and DB/1 - but when you you look deeper into this cock and bull story it just simply is not true...
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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2012, 08:53:AM »
DB/1, for example, was a soil sample taken from tge scene by PC David Bird. However, there simply is no other exhibit in the case / investigation bearing an exhibit reference of SBJ/1, only the original reference to a sikencer...
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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2012, 02:18:PM »
Without the silencer, blood, and paint evidence the case against Jeremy collapses...

For this reason the powers that be will do everything within thier power to prevent the truth about how and why this evidence was manufactured? The CCRC is just an Agency set up by the State to protect itself, and to try and prevent cases like this one from damaging the image of the Criminal Justice System...

Without the silencer, blood, and paint evidence the case against Jeremy collapses...

What about the SC picture you have,what about the itemised bills you have? Don't you think you should do everything in you powers to set him free? You don't need to rely on anyone else Mike, just your own sense of Justice for JB? Surely you want him free just like the majority of us? The two bits of evididence you see fit to withhold will do this.It will prove the family were lying from day one,prove the police cover up,prove everything. Why won't you do this simple task? I know you'd prefer the guilty relatives and police to put their hands up to it,but after 27 years I'd say the odds on them doing that are slim.no doubt you'll want me to wait and see,but I think I,and everyone else(JB included) has waited for you for long enough,don't you think.... ?.
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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2012, 02:57:PM »
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soil sample taken from the scene by PC David Bird.

I hope he used a Clegg Soil Impact Tester to do this.

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2012, 03:06:PM »
I wonder where the suicide letter is,,that Sheila had written to her birth mother,,Christine Jay.?
" An action was raised during the original investigation to obtain this letter,,,however no further action was taken and it was signed off by the SIO."
I think there was a suggestion at some time that the brother,Peter Jay would be best contacted rather than Christine herself.

Why were all Sheilas' diaries destroyed,,,along with other vital evidence such as clothing from the family,bedding,the bible.?

When did Anthony Pargeter move to Spain.? What about his gun and silencer at WHF.?

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 04:01:PM »
Hi lookout  I had not heard about the suicide letter from Sheila to her natural Mother has anyone ever seen it also diaries where have they gone somebody must know.  What information could be gleaned from them as to how Sheila felt about her life.

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 04:03:PM »
Hi lookout  I had not heard about the suicide letter from Sheila to her natural Mother has anyone ever seen it also diaries where have they gone somebody must know.  What information could be gleaned from them as to how Sheila felt about her life.
Who was it saying ive blown all the money? now that is a issue.

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 04:03:PM »
mertol22 where have you been really missed you thought you must have gone off to sunnier climate :) :)

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 04:06:PM »
mertol22 where have you been really missed you thought you must have gone off to sunnier climate :) :)
Hello Suasan, ive been without internet for a littlw while, my fresh sim card arrived today, though at present im posting at mc donalds free wi fi at Lakeside Doncaster.

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 04:06:PM »
Hi lookout  I think the same guy got £60,000 from a newspaper who he sued.  His share from the family he said and laughed he,d blown the lot.

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 04:09:PM »
I look at this case from different angles, yet i always come back to the start, all this case is about money, one of the top reasons to commit murder.

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 04:12:PM »
Hi mertol22 I bet you really missed your internet connection not so long ago during a storm the lightning hit my modem and put the phones and the computer off I had to go and buy a new one cost about £30 we had a storm last night so I unplugged everything I was nervous of it happening again.  Glad you are OK. :) :)

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Re: If recent Arizona tests true, Silencer evidence manufactured...
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2012, 04:17:PM »
Hi mertol22 I bet you really missed your internet connection not so long ago during a storm the lightning hit my modem and put the phones and the computer off I had to go and buy a new one cost about £30 we had a storm last night so I unplugged everything I was nervous of it happening again.  Glad you are OK. :) :)
A smart move susan unplugging, ive been in contact with patti via email , and i was on the phone last night to jackie, i miss that gal on the forum, mike is right about the silencer but in my eyes its not enough to convict someone there is no proof he fired any firearms that night, and thats poor investigations.