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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #285 on: June 30, 2012, 09:51:PM »
I'm not saying that all psychopaths can buck the test, just that some people, for whatever reason, do not display the same physiological responses when they lie as other people do. Various personality traits or disorders may be the reason for that. People telling the truth can also fail lie detector tests...

I don't believe psychopaths have any more ability to fake a pass then any other Tom, Dick or Harry, to be fair. One can't determine that someone with a personality disorder or one who has psychopathy and, in JB's case he has neither.

But, statistically laying is more likely to be recognised, or should I say detectable by the polygraph, than it's human counter parts.  :) :) :) :)


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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #286 on: June 30, 2012, 10:13:PM »
Individual miscarriages of justice cases are not always heard of by the general public, unless they are very high profile.  Even with high profile cases the majority of the public only know of the case, by what they have read in the tabloids or broadsheets or the local gossips.  It is only with the use of the internet that details of individual cases are being able to reach a far wider audience therefore more people are getting to hear the ins and the outs of cases.

I think that individual prisoners who are claiming to have been wrongly convicted and suffered a miscarriage of justice, who ask to take a polygraph are saying, help me, I have evidence that I did not commit this crime, for various reasons I can't use this evidence as it wont be allowed/doesnt fit the criteria or the evidence has been refused, I need to let the public know I have this evidence, people will probably not have even heard of me or my predicament but I am innocent and I will do anything to prove it so when given the opportunity to take a polygraph they accept it, not as a challenge, but by believing that if they tell the truth it will back up the evidence they already have that they did not commit the crime that they have been convicted of.

I genuinely believe that an innocent person will try anything to prove their innocence.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #287 on: June 30, 2012, 10:18:PM »
Individual miscarriages of justice cases are not always heard of by the general public, unless they are very high profile.  Even with high profile cases the majority of the public only know of the case, by what they have read in the tabloids or broadsheets or the local gossips.  It is only with the use of the internet that details of individual cases are being able to reach a far wider audience therefore more people are getting to hear the ins and the outs of cases.

I think that individual prisoners who are claiming to have been wrongly convicted and suffered a miscarriage of justice, who ask to take a polygraph are saying, help me, I have evidence that I did not commit this crime, for various reasons I can't use this evidence as it wont be allowed/doesnt fit the criteria or the evidence has been refused, I need to let the public know I have this evidence, people will probably not have even heard of me or my predicament but I am innocent and I will do anything to prove it so when given the opportunity to take a polygraph they accept it, not as a challenge, but by believing that if they tell the truth it will back up the evidence they already have that they did not commit the crime that they have been convicted of.

I genuinely believe that an innocent person will try anything to prove their innocence.

Brilliant post OnceSaid, I totally agree with you.  :) :) :)

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #288 on: June 30, 2012, 10:41:PM »
I've noticed that. I should started that sentance with "Since I am not a psychopath or anything else beginning with ..path, haven't trained myself to pass and there are no consequences in passing or failing..."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166604/Do-pick-nose--Jimmy-Kimmel-interrogates-children-lie-detector-colander-flashing-lights.html

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #289 on: July 06, 2012, 04:20:PM »
so as far as i can see we have one proven case of the test failing ok with tragic consequences.

and 3 case of it being proven to work.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #290 on: July 06, 2012, 04:24:PM »
Hi nugnug  which test failed with tragic consequences.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #291 on: July 06, 2012, 04:35:PM »
gary ridgeway the green river killer but that was 30 years ago.

and i believe that is the only proven case.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #292 on: July 20, 2012, 12:48:PM »
Alot has also been made on the Forum in respect of JB's lie detector test, and of course the result can only go so far legally as it is inadmissible as evidence.

I wonder if JB would would ever consider some form of controlled hypnosis?

Although again legally inadmissable the results would be interesting - esp. all the hidden stuff (and I'm sure there is hidden stuff!!)





I guess sodium pentathol, waterboarding or the rack would be unacceptable  ;D

« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 01:01:PM by Nickos »
Reality Check - What evidence is there to free JB? Answers on a very small postcard!

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #293 on: July 20, 2012, 01:11:PM »
Alot has also been made on the Forum in respect of JB's lie detector test, and of course the result can only go so far legally as it is inadmissible as evidence.

I wonder if JB would would ever consider some form of controlled hypnosis?

Although again legally inadmissable the results would be interesting - esp. all the hidden stuff (and I'm sure there is hidden stuff!!)





I guess sodium pentathol, waterboarding or the rack would be unacceptable  ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #294 on: July 20, 2012, 01:16:PM »
Hi Nickos I am sure Jeremy would agree to anything which may help his case for freedom not too sure about the rack though ;)

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #295 on: July 20, 2012, 01:17:PM »
people can still lie under hipnossis

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #296 on: July 20, 2012, 02:42:PM »
Personally I dont think JB should be asked or agree to any hypnosis test.  It would only be rubbished anyway.

The position he is in, and has been in for years is that everything he does is monitored, and written logs record various things on a daily basis.  All this close monitoring but yet nothing he has said or done over the years can be used against him or back up that he is a killer.  Probably because he is not.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #297 on: July 20, 2012, 03:25:PM »

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #298 on: July 20, 2012, 03:38:PM »
Sometimes justice fails, if we still had the death penalty just how many innocent people would have been put to death ? 2 , 6 , a lot more i should say, no system is perfect while its run under human control.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #299 on: July 20, 2012, 09:22:PM »
Sometimes justice fails, if we still had the death penalty just how many innocent people would have been put to death ? 2 , 6 , a lot more i should say, no system is perfect while its run under human control.


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