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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #270 on: June 29, 2012, 08:52:PM »
You may see it as pointless , i do not , you claim you are a random lady
on the internet who think's JB is guilty and him passing a polygraph means
nothing , now if you were to take one and comeback and have a change of opinion of
 the test , i think a lot of people on here would believe in the test a lot more , if you took the test
and found it is not easily beaten would you hold your hands up and say so ?

But that's the thing, it's not going to change my mind, no matter what happens. I reckon the accuracy of polygraphs is probably somewhere in the region of 60 - 70%, so there's a slightly better than even chance that you will get a correct result. I think the accuracy is probably higher than that if you restrict your guinea pigs to people who genuinely have no reason to lie, and nothing to fear from failing anyway. So, if I were to take the test and be truthful throughout I would fully expect to pass. Then you have people who can (or at least claim they can) beat the test. I am not one of them. If I were to tell a huge whopper I would fully expect the machine to record it, and the operator to interpret it as such. That doesn't mean that other people can't do it. Also as Mat has pointed out, there may be many other variables such as time which cannot be replicated in any test I undertook.
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« Reply #271 on: June 29, 2012, 10:18:PM »
I actually wonder just how many people  do ask to be tested. It's not the normal thing to want to do if you're guilty is it.?

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #272 on: June 29, 2012, 10:22:PM »
well as it can help an appeall anyway why would they want to do it.

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« Reply #273 on: June 29, 2012, 10:32:PM »
I would think that an innocent person who has requested to do a polygraph will also have other evidence which could help them prove their innocence. 

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« Reply #274 on: June 29, 2012, 10:43:PM »
I would think that an innocent person who has requested to do a polygraph will also have other evidence which could help them prove their innocence.


Exactly. That was the answer I wanted.

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« Reply #275 on: June 29, 2012, 10:44:PM »
I was happy not to post on the thread as its come up before , however newer members will be interested in thr feedback, the questions put to jeremy were put in a way , verry clear to the point where only a yes or no answer is required for the test, one thing i noted not all the answers were no.

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #276 on: June 29, 2012, 11:10:PM »
I was happy not to post on the thread as its come up before , however newer members will be interested in thr feedback, the questions put to jeremy were put in a way , verry clear to the point where only a yes or no answer is required for the test, one thing i noted not all the answers were no.


It would have depended on the questions.

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« Reply #277 on: June 29, 2012, 11:23:PM »
That may well be so, but the answer yes did not seem to alter anything  after all a yes is an admission .

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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #278 on: June 30, 2012, 09:45:AM »
But that's the thing, it's not going to change my mind, no matter what happens. I reckon the accuracy of polygraphs is probably somewhere in the region of 60 - 70%, so there's a slightly better than even chance that you will get a correct result. I think the accuracy is probably higher than that if you restrict your guinea pigs to people who genuinely have no reason to lie, and nothing to fear from failing anyway. So, if I were to take the test and be truthful throughout I would fully expect to pass. Then you have people who can (or at least claim they can) beat the test. I am not one of them. If I were to tell a huge whopper I would fully expect the machine to record it, and the operator to interpret it as such. That doesn't mean that other people can't do it. Also as Mat has pointed out, there may be many other variables such as time which cannot be replicated in any test I undertook.

Is this not what JB did?  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #279 on: June 30, 2012, 09:49:AM »
Is this not what JB did?  :) :) :) :)

See my comment re variables.... :)
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« Reply #280 on: June 30, 2012, 09:59:AM »
See my comment re variables.... :)

I only pluck out the good bits Bridget and did you not say  "So, if I were to take the test and be truthful throughout I would fully expect to pass."

Take no notice of mat....lol  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #281 on: June 30, 2012, 10:03:AM »
I only pluck out the good bits Bridget and did you not say  "So, if I were to take the test and be truthful throughout I would fully expect to pass."

I've noticed that. I should started that sentance with "Since I am not a psychopath or anything else beginning with ..path, haven't trained myself to pass and there are no consequences in passing or failing..."
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« Reply #282 on: June 30, 2012, 10:24:AM »
I've noticed that. I should started that sentance with "Since I am not a psychopath or anything else beginning with ..path, haven't trained myself to pass and there are no consequences in passing or failing..."

Is that your opinion or is that a fact? This i need to know. Is it the case that a psychopath can lie and still pass? Even though that person has been tested for psychopathy? and has not got it?  :) :) :)

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« Reply #283 on: June 30, 2012, 10:33:AM »
Is that your opinion or is that a fact? This i need to know. Is it the case that a psychopath can lie and still pass? Even though that person has been tested for psychopathy? and has not got it?  :) :) :)

I'm not saying that all psychopaths can buck the test, just that some people, for whatever reason, do not display the same physiological responses when they lie as other people do. Various personality traits or disorders may be the reason for that. People telling the truth can also fail lie detector tests...
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Re: Polygraph Testing
« Reply #284 on: June 30, 2012, 07:02:PM »
Good morning Rochford

You will always be special to me no matter what but I think you know that.  :-*

Very nice of you to say so egap.   8)