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Offline Kaldin

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Sheila's feet
« on: February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM »
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 04:49:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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She did have blood on her feet...
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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 04:50:PM »
Quote from: mike tesko on February 12, 2011, 04:49:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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She did have blood on her feet...

Oh, OK. I thought they didn't find much of anything on her feet.
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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 06:34:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on February 12, 2011, 04:49:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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She did have blood on her feet...

Oh, OK. I thought they didn't find much of anything on her feet.

Where is it documented that she had blood on her feet?
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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 06:40:PM »
Quote from: Hartley on February 12, 2011, 06:34:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on February 12, 2011, 04:49:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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She did have blood on her feet...

Oh, OK. I thought they didn't find much of anything on her feet.

Where is it documented that she had blood on her feet?

Is that question for Mike? I haven't seen anything which says she had blood on her feet.
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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 06:44:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 06:40:PM
Quote from: Hartley on February 12, 2011, 06:34:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on February 12, 2011, 04:49:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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She did have blood on her feet...

Oh, OK. I thought they didn't find much of anything on her feet.

Where is it documented that she had blood on her feet?

Is that question for Mike? I haven't seen anything which says she had blood on her feet.

Sorry Kaldin, yes that question was directed towards Mike.

I'd read that Sheilas feet were clean but it's unsure if that was before she had been cleaned in readiness for post mortem. Nevertheless I haven't seen anything indicating that she had blood on her feet. Just curious really.
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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 06:53:PM »
Quote from: Hartley on February 12, 2011, 06:44:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 06:40:PM
Quote from: Hartley on February 12, 2011, 06:34:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on February 12, 2011, 04:49:PM
Quote from: Kaldin on February 12, 2011, 04:40:PM
It's been said that Sheila's feet were "clean" but I'm not sure what that means. One way or another, Sheila walked into the main bedroom (unless she was carried), and I presume that happened after June was shot. Why then did Sheila not have June's blood on the bottom of her feet? There were spots of blood all over the carpet.
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She did have blood on her feet...

Oh, OK. I thought they didn't find much of anything on her feet.

Where is it documented that she had blood on her feet?

Is that question for Mike? I haven't seen anything which says she had blood on her feet.

Sorry Kaldin, yes that question was directed towards Mike.

I'd read that Sheilas feet were clean but it's unsure if that was before she had been cleaned in readiness for post mortem. Nevertheless I haven't seen anything indicating that she had blood on her feet. Just curious really.

I've seen a statement by one of the police who said her feet were clean. I suppose blood stains might not be obvious unless they looked closely though.

I was also wondering what Sheila was doing in the bedroom round that side of the bed anyway.
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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2011, 05:41:PM »
From the Appeal document.

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The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining
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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 07:45:PM »
do you think sheila could have been wearing the socks that were photographed near the body?
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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 07:54:PM »
Quote from: andrea on February 13, 2011, 07:45:PM
do you think sheila could have been wearing the socks that were photographed near the body?

I did think they were probably Neville's but it's possible that Sheila was wearing them. I can't see any mention of those socks anywhere else - they didn't seem to be referred to at the trial.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 07:57:PM »
and photos of neville are blocked out, so its hard to tell if he was wearing socks at the time of his death,if he was then its very possible that sheila could have been wearing them. from what i can see on the photo of sheila the socks do look heavily stained.
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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 08:06:PM »
Quote from: andrea on February 13, 2011, 07:57:PM
and photos of neville are blocked out, so its hard to tell if he was wearing socks at the time of his death,if he was then its very possible that sheila could have been wearing them. from what i can see on the photo of sheila the socks do look heavily stained.

One of the points that the prosecution made at the trial was that Sheila's feet were very clean for someone who had allegedly rampaged through the house shooting her family. If she was not wearing socks I would expect there to have at least been some blood on the bottom of her feet whether she shot her family or not because she would surely have walked over the carpet where June's blood was.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 08:19:PM »
i agree kaldin, but she could have been wearing the socks that were photographed at the side of her body, and took them off for some reason before shooting herself, maybe? just a thought.
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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 08:23:PM »
Quote from: andrea on February 13, 2011, 08:19:PM
i agree kaldin, but she could have been wearing the socks that were photographed at the side of her body, and took them off for some reason before shooting herself, maybe? just a thought.

She could have. I wonder why the defence didn't suggest that. Perhaps they didn't see the socks.
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Re: Sheila's feet
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 08:27:PM »
But they had the photo?

The clean feet were always going to be big deal. Preparing for the case they would have thought of that.

Were the washed 'leggings' on the bannisters footless or tights? Were there socks in soak with the bloody underwear?
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