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Offline Patti

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #825 on: June 12, 2012, 10:06:PM »
Books can be good to help clarify the evidence. IMO. you can learn why someone said what in a statement and exactly what they meant by it.

They can give alternative arguments mat...I agree. But could a writer be biased enough to distort the truth and lead the reader into believing fact is merely a myth?  :) :) :) :)


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« Reply #826 on: June 12, 2012, 10:07:PM »
They can give alternative arguments mat...I agree. But could a writer be biased enough to distort the truth and lead the reader into believing fact is merely a myth?  :) :) :) :)

Oh, God yes! Of course.
I'd like to read books by people involved with the case- anyone else has jsut their own outside opinion.

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« Reply #827 on: June 12, 2012, 10:08:PM »
Do you think books are a good guide to the truth, when there is documented evidence available to the public?  :) :) :)

The book is supposed to be fact, it is not a fictional account of the events and it is based on witness statements, the documents (of the time) that you mention and as close to first hand account as possible. There will always be an authors spin on it but that is what I am trying to dissect.
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« Reply #828 on: June 12, 2012, 10:11:PM »
Hi maggie :) I know he has been tested and not been diagnosed as having psychopathy. I was just being honest in the fact it had crossed my mind at one point, what I should have said was, it was before I knew that he had been tested.  I am off to bed maggie....there is not enough hours in a day...speak tomorrow...X
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« Reply #829 on: June 12, 2012, 10:13:PM »
Hi AJ

I have read Colin's book and according to him, he was the father of the said two abortions and one miscarriage.

One abortion when she 17yrs unmarried. One miscarriage a couple of months after they got married and the second abortion was during their marriage, due to an infection...then she had the twins.  :) :)

Do we know why she had the first abortion? I'm just thinking about the episodes described by Freddie Emami (think I spelt that right) andher mental state, the descriptions he makes are rather disturbing

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« Reply #830 on: June 12, 2012, 10:14:PM »
Hi AJ

I have read Colin's book and according to him, he was the father of the said two abortions and one miscarriage.

One abortion when she 17yrs unmarried. One miscarriage a couple of months after they got married and the second abortion was during their marriage, due to an infection...then she had the twins.  :) :)


Patti, going by the timelines you give, theirs was along term relationship. Despite its' volatility, something kept them together. It may not have been easy for him to notice her deteriorating mental health until it became obvious, by which time he may have felt obligated to stay with her. Not really good grounds for a stable relationship, but I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time and I suppose most of us do what ever it takes at some time in our lives.

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« Reply #831 on: June 12, 2012, 10:23:PM »
Do we know why she had the first abortion? I'm just thinking about the episodes described by Freddie Emami (think I spelt that right) andher mental state, the descriptions he makes are rather disturbing

I was just curious about the possibility of any sort of trauma she experienced (that I personally am not aware of)

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« Reply #832 on: June 12, 2012, 10:44:PM »
Patti, all official reports of Jeremy Bamber carried out when in prison have concluded that Jeremy shows no sign of psychopathy or any other psychiatric or psychological disorder.  Again and again, people who insist Jeremy to be guilty play the psychopath card even though this has been found to be unfounded over and over again.  No one has a clue whether this woman knew first hand what she was talking about or whether it was repeated information.  It is hearsay and therefore has to be dismissed as meaningless. imho

All reports or just the ones he talks about? If he's passed 27, how many has he failed?
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« Reply #833 on: June 12, 2012, 10:48:PM »
All reports or just the ones he talks about? If he's passed 27, how many has he failed?

I don't suppose we know which tests they were?

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« Reply #834 on: June 12, 2012, 10:53:PM »
A book is a guide not the truth, nor do i believe a court is always the truth, a book is 1 persons thoughts is it yours ?

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« Reply #835 on: June 12, 2012, 11:00:PM »
A book is a guide not the truth, nor do i believe a court is always the truth, a book is 1 persons thoughts is it yours ?

Yes, but you just changed your avatar to an Italian flag!!!  ;)

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« Reply #836 on: June 12, 2012, 11:26:PM »
Yes, but you just changed your avatar to an Italian flag!!!  ;)
I need to go back to Alassio , ive not been since 1978, i hear its changed very little,ive also heard the hotel we were in is still there a stone throw from the train station !

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« Reply #837 on: June 12, 2012, 11:27:PM »
I need to go back to Alassio , ive not been since 1978, i hear its changed very little,ive also heard the hotel we were in is still there a stone throw from the train station !
I am trying to remember where in Italy Alassio is. Got it, it's the Italian Riveria and it was the place to go in the early 60's.  My friend's father was a consultant and they always went to Alassio for their summer hols.  It all sounded very exotic to the rest of us.
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« Reply #838 on: June 12, 2012, 11:51:PM »
I am trying to remember where in Italy Alassio is. Got it, it's the Italian Riveria and it was the place to go in the early 60's for the richer classes.  My friend's father was a consultant and they always went to Alassio for their summer hols.  It all sounded very exotic to the rest of us.
im tempted to post a picture of me back then on pattis friday night anything goes on friday night.

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« Reply #839 on: June 13, 2012, 12:03:AM »
im tempted to post a picture of me back then on pattis friday night anything goes on friday night.
I think you should follow your gut feeling mertol and go for it.  I'm sure she'll appreciate.xx