Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF

[maggie]

I'm not saying I am perfect. But did I ever steal from my family? No I never did that.
I've seen people here saying that Jeremy can't have done it because he loved his parents. But I think stealing from them and scaring them is enough to question how strong that love was.

Well mat, kids do stuff.  Mostly they don't think about scaring their parents. Sometimes it takes a big lesson to realise that your parents actually get scared and are human.

[Patti]

Thanks patti , were these lights still on , at the event of the storming at or around 07.30am ?

I know the bedroom light was on when photo's were taken, you can see the reflection...Don't know about the rest of the lights being on when they went in...I suppose they were....

But, Bews doesn't mention a light being on when Myall see movement in a room, which i find interesting...

[guest154]

Well mat, kids do stuff.  Mostly they don't think about scaring their parents. Sometimes it takes a big lesson to realise that your parents actually get scared and are human.

Kids, sure. But do you think Jeremy was a kid at the time?

[Nuala]

Well it would make more sense if you weren't editing tons of my posts again, Keira. How can I debate with you or anyone when you edit the posts so they don't make sense?

Avoid personal attacks directed at members and the posts won't be mod'd.

[maggie]

I know the bedroom light was on when photo's were taken, you can see the reflection...Don't know about the rest of the lights being on when they went in...I suppose they were....

But, Bews doesn't mention a light being on when Myall see movement in a room, which i find interesting...

That is interesting Patti because other PCs say all the lights were on.  The lights issue is different in every statement.

[Patti]

Nice one Pattix

Thanks maggie....that's not all they found though...in fact they found everything and were the prosecutors. The police just left it too them, for they found nothing which resulted in JB being found guilty....

[tyler]

Mat...........If you feel that Jeremy stealing from the caravan park make him a good candidate for a murderer,what does that make Peter Eaton,who xxxx from the Bamber company after the murders?Can we trust the witness statements of this xxxx?Or should we just dismiss everything he has said because if he is a xxxx,then surely he is a xxx and possibly a xxxx too?


For your own sake, Tyler, please be careful about allegations in your post. Could you do this again quoting the statement? Then you're covered

[mertol22]

I know the bedroom light was on when photo's were taken, you can see the reflection...Don't know about the rest of the lights being on when they went in...I suppose they were....

But, Bews doesn't mention a light being on when Myall see movement in a room, which i find interesting...

it may be nothing patti but im sure bews said both him and jeremy thought they saw movement in the upstairs window 2 people cant be wrong.

[guest154]

Avoid personal attacks directed at members and the posts won't be mod'd.

Is that your official line? That it was a personal attack? Because you have made it look like you've edited out one line when in reality you've deleted about 20. Including what I said about the CCRC's letter regarding the defence submissions.

Mat...........If you feel that Jeremy stealing from the caravan park make him a good candidate for a murderer,what does that make Peter Eaton,who xxxx from the Bamber company after the murders?Can we trust the witness statements of thisxxxx?Or should we just dismiss everything he has said because if he is a xxxxxthen surely he is a xxxx and possibly a xxxxx too?

Not that it makes him a good candidate for murder, I'm not saying that. But that it doesn't co-exist with members saying he loved his family and would never do ANYTHING to hurt them.

[maggie]

Kids, sure. But do you think Jeremy was a kid at the time?

Jeremy at 24 was a kid.  most young men who have been sheltered and haven't had to worry about where the money's coming from at 24 are 'kids' in a wider sense of the word.  More 24 year olds are kids today because life has been easier for them growing up. 

[Patti]

That is interesting Patti because other PCs say all the lights were on.  The lights issue is different in every statement.

Hi maggie, I know JB is adamant that it was the main bedroom that Myall sees movement, but Bews tells a different story...he claims it was at the back of the house, he noted a light on in the kitchen....top right hand window...to me sounds like the box room....the same room as Jeapes sees a rifle leaning at the window...Brown also sees a rifle at the window, but I his statement is not available... X

[guest154]

Jeremy at 24 was a kid.  most young men who have been sheltered and haven't had to worry about where the money's coming from at 24 are 'kids' in a wider sense of the word.  More 24 year olds are kids today because life has been easier for them growing up.

I've called Jeremy a kid before on here Maggie and people did not like it. I said kids kill their parents all the time and the response I got was that he wasn't a kid! he was in his twenties!
Yet I always found him to be immature, a craver of attention and childlike so yeah I am inclined to agree with you.

[tyler]

Mat........when Jeremy stole from the caravan park,he was in effect stealing from himself as it was partly his business too.And he held his hands up to it didnt he?He could have denied it as there was no proof.Most of his family were deceitful...doesnt make them murderers!

[Patti]

it may be nothing patti but im sure bews said both him and jeremy thought they saw movement in the upstairs window 2 people cant be wrong.

He does Mertol. Bews is not consistent first he says it was JB that sees movement, then his latest video he says it was Myall. It's confusing...lol makes me drink more...

[guest154]

Mat........when Jeremy stole from the caravan park,he was in effect stealing from himself as it was partly his business too.And he held his hands up to it didnt he?He could have denied it as there was no proof.Most of his family were deceitful...doesnt make them murderers!

Tyler, I've JUST told you. I am not saying it makes them murderers.