Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF

[lookout]

Whose blood in the silencer.?

[Roch]

Jeremy did indeed behave as if he thought the case against him was bound to fail, but I wonder why? He must have known that the prosecution had the blood in the silencer as evidence, why was he so confident that would fail?

Like Shona (and many on your side of the fence), he probably thought it was a "crock of shit". 

[lonny]

Jeremy did indeed behave as if he thought the case against him was bound to fail, but I wonder why? He must have known that the prosecution had the blood in the silencer as evidence, why was he so confident that would fail?

Because he didn't do it.

[maggie]

Jeremy did indeed behave as if he thought the case against him was bound to fail, but I wonder why? He must have known that the prosecution had the blood in the silencer as evidence, why was he so confident that would fail?

I would imagine, bridget, Jeremy thought the case would fail because he had't done it and believed in British justice.  He was unaware that people like yourself knew better than him.

[Bridget]

I would imagine, bridget, Jeremy thought the case would fail because he had't done it and believed in British justice.  He was unaware that people like yourself knew better than him.

He had lawyers, they must have told him what he was up against.

[lookout]

How can anyone ever be prepared for something that they didn't do.? It was because Jeremy was/is innocent that his defence had nothing,if anything to go on. There was no case to answer to,,simple as that.
 Let's face it,,if they'd have known back then what's known now,,,the case would have been thrown from here to kingdom come.

[Patti]

Just a thought, but JB himself thinks it was ludicrous to think Shelia would have used a moderator and put it back in the gun cupboard or anyone for that matter, this is why, I suppose it has been a bone of contention for all these years....to prove the moderator was never used and to prove it had not got Sheila's blood on it....

We also have to remember that blood group O was also the same blood group of RB...

We also have to remember that the EP never found any evidence that proved JB guilty.

The only evidence that was found was by the family and that is a fact.

We are told that EP failed miserably to find evidence, but were they really that bad? 

[Patti]

How can anyone ever be prepared for something that they didn't do.? It was because Jeremy was/is innocent that his defence had nothing,if anything to go on. There was no case to answer to,,simple as that.
 Let's face it,,if they'd have known back then what's known now,,,the case would have been thrown from here to kingdom come.

Hi Lookout...I would love a retrial based on what is known now.  JB hadn't got a clue about the court system, or what to expect...He had faith that he would be set free and why was that? Because he was innocent...All his friends said that he was a wimp. He never had the profile of a killer. 

[Jane]

He had lawyers, they must have told him what he was up against.

I feel that, given his somewhat arrogant and contemptuous behaviour, they must have allowed him to go along with the belief that he couldn't lose. At the time, it came across as the behaviour of someone who had fooled everybody and was gloating. NOW it seems like the behaviour of someone who believed his innocence was so obvious that it was recognizable to all, and putting him on trial was a farce.

[mertol22]

Just a thought, but JB himself thinks it was ludicrous to think Shelia would have used a moderator and put it back in the gun cupboard or anyone for that matter, this is why, I suppose it has been a bone of contention for all these years....to prove the moderator was never used and to prove it had not got Sheila's blood on it....

We also have to remember that blood group O was also the same blood group of RB...

We also have to remember that the EP never found any evidence that proved JB guilty.

The only evidence that was found was by the family and that is a fact.

We are told that EP failed miserably to find evidence, but were they really that bad? 

Not wearing gloves on a crimescene reason enough to question them,there are pictures of jeremy with a smirk on his face i believe this was a personal wall to say this is a farce .

[Jane]

Hi Lookout...I would love a retrial based on what is known now.  JB hadn't got a clue about the court system, or what to expect...He had faith that he would be set free and why was that? Because he was innocent...All his friends said that he was a wimp. He never had the profile of a killer. 

Hi, Patti. YES to everthing you say........but over the last week I've been told that he must be guilty because:- "He was a villian", "He once broke somebody's arm", "He was ungrateful", "He was a horrid boy". I did point out to those who held these thoughts, that whilst they may be true, none of these "attributes" make him a killer. The last condemnation is really interesting, because how you interpret depends on whether you're pro or anti:- "His father said he could never turn his back on him."

[Patti]

Perhaps because the verdict would have hit jeremy like a express train changed him overnight with a decree absolute to fight for justice , to which he he still fighting where most men would have given up years ago jeremy does not seem to show defeat the moment he does its over so i guess for him its all he has got left pure resolve.

Also JB knows that he can't be down graded to a category B prisoner, because he refuses to carry out defence related work, because that would mean he had to admit his guilt and so stays a category A prisoner. Plus this could jeopardise his chances of an appeal....

[mertol22]

Also JB knows that he can't be down graded to a category B prisoner, because he refuses to carry out defence related work, because that would mean he had to admit his guilt and so stays a category A prisoner. Plus this could jeopardise his chances of an appeal....

was he not going to be down graded patti ? the relatives complained and restored to cat A ?off out now will be back 9 ish after a dallas

[lookout]

It just beggars belief that this has been allowed to go on for so long.  It is those who've put Jeremy where he is who seriously need questioning.
I wonder how many times he's asked himself " what am I doing here ?". I would hate to have to tell him the answer to that one.
Where are all these intellectual  boffins with degrees as long as your arm.? Are there any to actually read this case from start to finish,,,without bias,,,,to reach the logical conclusion that's staring them in the face.?

I'm finding it more and more difficult to find anything that hasn't already been posted,,,to avoid going over old ground,,,often stopping to think that this shouldn't be happening,,and my thoughts about there not being a case to answer to. I do find the whole thing,,,in Shakespeare's words " Much Ado About Nothing."

Except that in Jeremy's case,,it's different because he's actually being incarcerated For Nothing.
 The bigger the criminal you are,,,the better the options.! Justice.? Pah.!

[Jane]

It just beggars belief that this has been allowed to go on for so long.  It is those who've put Jeremy where he is who seriously need questioning.
I wonder how many times he's asked himself " what am I doing here ?". I would hate to have to tell him the answer to that one.
Where are all these intellectual  boffins with degrees as long as your arm.? Are there any to actually read this case from start to finish,,,without bias,,,,to reach the logical conclusion that's staring them in the face.?

I'm finding it more and more difficult to find anything that hasn't already been posted,,,to avoid going over old ground,,,often stopping to think that this shouldn't be happening,,and my thoughts about there not being a case to answer to. I do find the whole thing,,,in Shakespeare's words " Much Ado About Nothing."

Except that in Jeremy's case,,it's different because he's actually being incarcerated For Nothing.
 The bigger the criminal you are,,,the better the options.! Justice.? Pah.!

I hear your frustration and concur with all you say.