Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF

[maggie]

We all hear stories about what JB was like after the deaths of his family. No one, not anyone can put themselves in his shoes.

He was it total shock...It must have been very difficult for him to cry......How many times have you heard this,  it will hit her/him when at the funeral?

Well it did hit him.....I have a real close up of Jeremy and you can see the tears coming out of his eyes and all his eye lashes are wet and joined up....

Yet the press says it was an act! Why? We read the press, so we believe what we read.....Not I 

Too right patti. Good for you.x

[ajross]

We all hear stories about what JB was like after the deaths of his family. No one, not anyone can put themselves in his shoes.

He was it total shock...It must have been very difficult for him to cry......How many times have you heard this,  it will hit her/him when at the funeral?

Well it did hit him.....I have a real close up of Jeremy and you can see the tears coming out of his eyes and all his eye lashes are wet and joined up....

Yet the press says it was an act! Why? We read the press, so we believe what we read.....Not I 

What I find more shocking are some of the things that he has supposedly said and that he twisted Julie Mugford's arm up behind her back and went as if to hit her before she had given him up to the police and allegedly because she slapped him as a result of his own atrocious behaviour

[mertol22]

We all hear stories about what JB was like after the deaths of his family. No one, not anyone can put themselves in his shoes.

He was it total shock...It must have been very difficult for him to cry......How many times have you heard this,  it will hit her/him when at the funeral?

Well it did hit him.....I have a real close up of Jeremy and you can see the tears coming out of his eyes and all his eye lashes are wet and joined up....

Yet the press says it was an act! Why? We read the press, so we believe what we read.....Not I 

i do not believe is possible to fake crying we are talking pure raw human emotion here look at colin not crying he is unable to understand a dream like emotion.

[guest154]

i do not believe is possible to fake crying we are talking pure raw human emotion here look at colin not crying he is unable to understand a dream like emotion.

You don't think a person can fake cry? 

[Nuala]

What I find more shocking are some of the things that he has supposedly said and that he twisted Julie Mugford's arm up behind her back and went as if to hit her before she had given him up to the police and allegedly because she slapped him as a result of his own atrocious behaviour

Woah, AJ...

JM did also smash Jeremy's mirror (and Chinese cabinet?) and admitted trying to kill Jeremy by smothering him in his sleep.

Anyone who smashes my Chinese cabinet has a good slap coming to them.

[mertol22]

You don't think a person can fake cry? 

i do not mat and ive seen thousands of people cry, there is laughter cry but thats something else and people do laugh on funerals be it in the church/crematorium chapel or after the service looking at floral tributes.

[Patti]

What I find more shocking are some of the things that he has supposedly said and that he twisted Julie Mugford's arm up behind her back and went as if to hit her before she had given him up to the police and allegedly because she slapped him as a result of his own atrocious behaviour

but that does not make someone guilty of 5 murders. He does admit to pushing her on the bed...but denies twisting her arm up her back.....

Come on AJ....She claimed to know that he had committed the murders, then in the next breath she claims he had hired someone to commit the murders....Which bit is true?

She put a pillow over his face whilst he was sleeping......He asked her why she had done that, and she states in her statement..."well If I can't have you no one can" her words....

Anyway, this is hearsay and no way is it proof that he picked up a gun and shot his family...is it? 

[mertol22]

but that does not make someone guilty of 5 murders. He does admit to pushing her on the bed...but denies twisting her arm up her back.....

Come on AJ....She claimed to know that he had committed the murders, then in the next breath she claims he had hired someone to commit the murders....Which bit is true?

She put a pillow over his face whilst he was sleeping......He asked her why she had done that, and she states in her statement..."well If I can't have you no one can" her words....

Anyway, this is hearsay and no way is it proof that he picked up a gun and shot his family...is it? 

The problem with hearsay patti is on its own means little mixed with other things it starts to be taken as factual.

[Patti]

You don't think a person can fake cry? 

Yes I do, but you can't fake real tears.....and it is a fact that psychopaths don't cry....Whilst I was reading the book...I found out that Jeremy Bamber was most upset about his dog dying it made him sick...he loved animals....this is why he was reluctant at killing them. 

[guest154]

Yes I do, but you can't fake real tears.....and it is a fact that psychopaths don't cry....Whilst I was reading the book...I found out that Jeremy Bamber was most upset about his dog dying it made him sick...he loved animals....this is why he was reluctant at killing them. 

Could explain why the dog at WHF wasn't killed and was locked in the cupboard.

[Patti]

Could explain why the dog at WHF wasn't killed and was locked in the cupboard.

the dog was found under the bed mat....The police put the dog in the wardrobe it wasn't locked. The poor thing was put there, so it would not ruin the crime scene.....

The dog Crispy.....was affectionally known as the pest.....

[bloggs and son]

You don't think a person can fake cry? 

I agree. Someone can fake cry. JM did it all the time in court.

[bloggs and son]

the dog was found under the bed mat....The police put the dog in the wardrobe it wasn't locked. The poor thing was put there, so it would not ruin the crime scene.....

The dog Crispy.....was affectionally known as the pest.....

It's a pity they didn't examine the dog as well. He was part of the crime scene. It was the cops who trampled all over the crime scene with their great clumsy flat feet.

[guest154]

the dog was found under the bed mat....The police put the dog in the wardrobe it wasn't locked. The poor thing was put there, so it would not ruin the crime scene.....

The dog Crispy.....was affectionally known as the pest.....

Ah, right. Thanks Patti.

[Patti]

I agree. Someone can fake cry. JM did it all the time in court.

Shame she didn't cry Grahame when she went to identify the bodies of two young children and the rest of the family. 

Yes, she cried in court....it was said she was difficult to cross-examine.