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Offline maggie

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2012, 11:24:AM »
He doesn't like you. He doesn't like me much either, get over it.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2012, 12:41:PM »
What are they supposed to do, re-review their decision every time JB says he doesn't like it, which will be any decision which is not to refer?

They will have been told the basis of the JR application in the letter from Simon McKay, clearly they think they will be successful in defending whatever points he has raised.

It is not the job or the role of the CCRC to carry on as though they are a jury, they have to refer a case back to the court of appeal if there is any chance of a new ground or any evidence which has since come to light, which could have made a difference to the juries original verdict - in this case, the new evidence from various experts from Arizona, that a rifle minus a silencer was used to shoot dead Sheila at the scene, is capable of undermining the prosecutions case that a silencer was used in the shooting of Sheila Caffell, and as such unless the CCRC could produce conflicting expert opinion denouncing the latest findings, the case should be sent back to the CCOA for judgement. A Failure to do so, amounts to a case of unacceptable bias...
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2012, 12:49:PM »
It is not the job or the role of the CCRC to carry on as though they are a jury, they have to refer a case back to the court of appeal if there is any chance of a new ground or any evidence which has since come to light, which could have made a difference to the juries original verdict - in this case, the new evidence from various experts from Arizona, that a rifle minus a silencer was used to shoot dead Sheila at the scene, is capable of undermining the prosecutions case that a silencer was used in the shooting of Sheila Caffell, and as such unless the CCRC could produce conflicting expert opinion denouncing the latest findings, the case should be sent back to the CCOA for judgement. A Failure to do so, amounts to a case of unacceptable bias...

No doubt Simon McKay will be saying similar, but it's for the high court to decide now.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2012, 12:51:PM »
Mike,I agree with you. The case has been biased right from the start. No doubt whatsoever about that.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2012, 01:29:PM »
It is not the job or the role of the CCRC to carry on as though they are a jury, they have to refer a case back to the court of appeal if there is any chance of a new ground or any evidence which has since come to light, which could have made a difference to the juries original verdict - in this case, the new evidence from various experts from Arizona, that a rifle minus a silencer was used to shoot dead Sheila at the scene, is capable of undermining the prosecutions case that a silencer was used in the shooting of Sheila Caffell, and as such unless the CCRC could produce conflicting expert opinion denouncing the latest findings, the case should be sent back to the CCOA for judgement. A Failure to do so, amounts to a case of unacceptable bias...
So, surely the " photo on the bed " would undermine assertions that SC had not been moved and the producing of said photo would seriously undermine the prosecutions case, irrespective of if they cannot agree on silencer evidence. So failing to produce said photo therefore amounts to a case of unacceptable stupidity or bullshit. IMO
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2012, 02:57:PM »
So, surely the " photo on the bed " would undermine assertions that SC had not been moved and the producing of said photo would seriously undermine the prosecutions case, irrespective of if they cannot agree on silencer evidence. So failing to produce said photo therefore amounts to a case of unacceptable stupidity or bullshit. IMO

Newspaper reports of the day, reported that the body of Sheila and June were found on the bed, some reports suggest the rifle was between their bodies on the bed, and others that a bible was atop Sheila's chest. I wonder where the journalists who produced these articles got there information from?
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2012, 04:11:PM »
He doesn't like you. He doesn't like me much either, get over it.

These incessant feuds between different members are just plain daft at times.  Some members hold grudges about having been slighted by such and such, months ago.  If it's not A vs B it's C vs D.  Round and round it goes. 

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2012, 04:23:PM »
These incessant feuds between different members are just plain daft at times.  Some members hold grudges about having been slighted by such and such, months ago.  If it's not A vs B it's C vs D.  Round and round it goes.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2012, 04:30:PM »
Eventually it'll be Z then...

Maybe he's not gonna save the day...

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2012, 04:34:PM »
Newspaper reports of the day, reported that the body of Sheila and June were found on the bed, some reports suggest the rifle was between their bodies on the bed, and others that a bible was atop Sheila's chest. I wonder where the journalists who produced these articles got there information from?
No idea Mike. Facts are sacred,you can't believe everything you read,but seeing it with your ( and our ) own eyes is surely proof beyond doubt?
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2012, 04:43:PM »
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2012, 04:47:PM »
Z's dead baby...
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2012, 05:01:PM »
Stop trying to goad me, you're the liar. Lied  about a sick daughter for attention online. You're sick!
I think you should reconsider your post Mat. This is one of the most disgraceful post I have ever read.
This is the reason I look at the other forum.
You are an absolute disgrace Mat. Have you been to the pub, or drinking at home.
That was a terrible post, and hope you leave the forum, as you have nothing to add, only bile.consider
If you are who you say you are then you need to consider your position, and certainly do not be considered as a man that should be taken seriosly.
You are a foul mouthed moron.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2012, 05:11:PM »
I think you should reconsider your post Mat. This is one of the most disgraceful post I have ever read.
This is the reason I look at the other forum.
You are an absolute disgrace Mat. Have you been to the pub, or drinking at home.
That was a terrible post, and hope you leave the forum, as you have nothing to add, only bile.consider
If you are who you say you are then you need to consider your position, and certainly do not be considered as a man that should be taken seriosly.
You are a foul mouthed moron.
Well said Buddy. Many of us are very aware of the stress Grahaame is under at the moment he deserves support from us all.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2012, 05:24:PM »
Well said Buddy. Many of us are very aware of the stress Grahaame is under at the moment he deserves support from us all.
I Doubt that Grahame needs support from a wanker like me, but I am here if he does.