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Offline ngb1066

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2012, 10:59:AM »
Wouldn't there be an agreement, either express or implied, that the experts may discuss the issues with the CCRC? I accept that SM should and would have been told about any communication between them, but given that the experts are supposed to be independent, it cannot be right that they should require SMs permission to 'reveal' anything.

No there would not.  I do know that there was no discussion between the CCRC and the US experts.


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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2012, 11:01:AM »
They haven't properly investigated. They haven't consulted with the experts in Arizona. In order to have done that they would have to ask SM and such a request has not been made. How do I know that? Because the experts in Arizona, who conducted the tests under instruction from JB's legal team are under obligation to tell SM before they reveal any information to a third source. That has not taken place either. So if anyone says otherwise is either grossly misinformed or the are lying about who they are. period. ;)

So does that mean they haven't acted within the law and followed an investigation which is vital to a man's case? :)

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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2012, 11:01:AM »
No there would not.  I do know that there was no discussion between the CCRC and the US experts.

That surprises me, but I accept that that is the case.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2012, 11:04:AM »
He brought his daughter onto these boards, not me.

He can say I am a traitor and would get shot. But I can't call him a liar? He calls me it daily.


I don't believe him, I don't have to believe him. He doesn't believe my story, I don't believe his.

He isn't going to bully me anymore, NGB.

He did not say you were a traitor and would be shot.  He gave an analogy of what might happen in wartime if secrets were disclosed.  You must withdraw what you have said about Grahame's daughter Mat.  You have said it in anger but that does not justify the comment.  The allegation that Grahame has made up his daughter's illness is one which you have picked up from Tim Bennett on the Lamberton forum.  It is an appalling and insensitive allegation to make.  Please withdraw it.

 

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2012, 11:06:AM »
He brought his daughter onto these boards, not me.

He can say I am a traitor and would get shot. But I can't call him a liar? He calls me it daily.


I don't believe him, I don't have to believe him. He doesn't believe my story, I don't believe his.

He isn't going to bully me anymore, NGB.

Hi Mat, please don't bring personal things to the forum, it's not cricket....:) Go delete your posts...please.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2012, 11:07:AM »
So does that mean they haven't acted within the law and followed an investigation which is vital to a man's case? :)

That is what is being asserted, the high court will decide whether that is the case.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2012, 11:08:AM »
So does that mean they haven't acted within the law and followed an investigation which is vital to a man's case? :)

The defence case is that the CCRC have not evaluated the latest submissions and the fresh evidence in the way required by law.  If they had done so, they would have referred the case to the Court of Appeal.

 

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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2012, 11:09:AM »
He did not say you were a traitor and would be shot.  He gave an analogy of what might happen in wartime if secrets were disclosed.  You must withdraw what you have said about Grahame's daughter Mat.  You have said it in anger but that does not justify the comment.  The allegation that Grahame has made up his daughter's illness is one which you have picked up from Tim Bennett on the Lamberton forum.  It is an appalling and insensitive allegation to make.  Please withdraw it.

On that forum they are all saying that they wish her the best and doubt she would want her details posting all over the internet. I don't recall seeing someone say that he made it up.
But that analogy was aimed directly at me to piss me off, you know that.
I apologise if he is telling the truth about his daughter. I choose to call him a liar, even though it is baseless on my behalf. I hope he knows how it feels to be attacked when you're being honest.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2012, 11:10:AM »
The defence case is that the CCRC have not evaluated the latest submissions and the fresh evidence in the way required by law.  If they had done so, they would have referred the case to the Court of Appeal.

 
To do so they would have needed to have the Arizona test's replicated , by their own expert's ?

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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2012, 11:11:AM »
Hi Mat, please don't bring personal things to the forum, it's not cricket....:) Go delete your posts...please.

I didn't, Patti. I just said I choose not to believe what he posts on the forum.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2012, 11:13:AM »
On that forum they are all saying that they wish her the best and doubt she would want her details posting all over the internet. I don't recall seeing someone say that he made it up.But that analogy was aimed directly at me to piss me off, you know that.
I apologise if he is telling the truth about his daughter. I choose to call him a liar, even though it is baseless on my behalf. I hope he knows how it feels to be attacked when you're being honest.

I can assure you that Tim Bennett repeatedly said that Grahame was making it up.  He also made the most disgusting suggestions about Grahame's daughter.  I am not going to repeat them.

 

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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2012, 11:14:AM »
I can assure you that Tim Bennett repeatedly said that Grahame was making it up.  He also made the most disgusting suggestions about Grahame's daughter.  I am not going to repeat them.

Well I haven't seen them.
My remarks where made to show him how it feels when someone says you're a liar. If he keeps on doing it to me, I will fight back on or off the forum - I'm not getting bullied by him.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2012, 11:18:AM »
Well I haven't seen them.
My remarks where made to show him how it feels when someone says you're a liar. If he keeps on doing it to me, I will fight back on or off the forum - I'm not getting bullied by him.

Really. So you randomly pick probably the most hurtful subject you could have and use it to teach him a lesson. That's just nasty.
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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2012, 11:19:AM »
Only so much I can take, Bridget. He's done nothing but be nasty since I came here.

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Re: CCRC ended?
« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2012, 11:21:AM »
Only so much I can take, Bridget. He's done nothing but be nasty since I came here.

He doesn't like you. He doesn't like me much either, get over it.
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