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Re: Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report
« Reply #90 on: September 12, 2012, 07:18:PM »
Patti please tell me about the key I am sitting here in suspense :)

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« Reply #91 on: September 12, 2012, 07:46:PM »
Patti please tell me about the key I am sitting here in suspense :)

Nothing to tell Susan. I thought about the front door, but it was bolted so I went on a wild goose chase....Enjoy your evening.  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #92 on: September 12, 2012, 07:49:PM »
Nothing to tell Susan. I thought about the front door, but it was bolted so I went on a wild goose chase....Enjoy your evening.  :) :) :) :)


BIG anti climax :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #93 on: September 12, 2012, 07:54:PM »

BIG anti climax :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I need a break April....All I have done for most of the day is read documents. Our Susan has been very helpful today giving me leads that end in nothing....I will forgive her for she is a fellow Yorkshire Lass....

I feel like  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( toooooooooooooooooooooo

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« Reply #94 on: September 12, 2012, 07:58:PM »
I need a break April....All I have done for most of the day is read documents. Our Susan has been very helpful today giving me leads that end in nothing....I will forgive her for she is a fellow Yorkshire Lass....

I feel like  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( toooooooooooooooooooooo


Aaaaaaaaaw Patti, will a hug from Essex help :) :) :) :-* :-* :-* :) :) :)xxx

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« Reply #95 on: September 12, 2012, 08:04:PM »
I can't see how McDonnell can say whose blood is who's on the carpet on the main bedroom?  ( He was not aware of the blood results)

He says of JB that bullets went through her neck and this is what caused the stain on the pillow....(I agree)

He then says she got up and went round the other side of the bed. ( I don't disagree, but I am inclined to disagree)

Then he stated she went back round to her side of the bed and sat down down, leaving trace evidence of blood on the bedding.  ( I agree she was sat down, but disagree, she went round the other side of the bed first)  :-\
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Re: Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report
« Reply #96 on: September 12, 2012, 08:06:PM »

Aaaaaaaaaw Patti, will a hug from Essex help :) :) :) :-* :-* :-* :) :) :)xxx

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (((((HUGS)))))) back form Yorkshire..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #97 on: September 12, 2012, 08:16:PM »
I can't see how McDonnell can say whose blood is who's on the carpet on the main bedroom?  ( He was not aware of the blood results)

He says of JB that bullets went through her neck and this is what caused the stain on the pillow....(I agree)

He then says she got up and went round the other side of the bed. ( I don't disagree, but I am inclined to disagree)

Then he stated she went back round to her side of the bed and sat down down, leaving trace evidence of blood on the bedding.  ( I agree she was sat down, but disagree, she went round the other side of the bed first)  :-\

Shock, blood pressure plummeting could both have forced her to sit down, whatever her intentions had been.

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« Reply #98 on: September 12, 2012, 08:41:PM »
I can't see how McDonnell can say whose blood is who's on the carpet on the main bedroom?  ( He was not aware of the blood results)

He says of JB that bullets went through her neck and this is what caused the stain on the pillow....(I agree)

He then says she got up and went round the other side of the bed. ( I don't disagree, but I am inclined to disagree)

Then he stated she went back round to her side of the bed and sat down down, leaving trace evidence of blood on the bedding.  ( I agree she was sat down, but disagree, she went round the other side of the bed first)  :-\

He had the blood results, just not any for the area on the right of the bed.

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« Reply #99 on: September 12, 2012, 08:48:PM »
He had the blood results, just not any for the area on the right of the bed.

Nope, I'm telling lies, you are correct Patti.  :-[

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« Reply #100 on: September 12, 2012, 08:54:PM »
Shock, blood pressure plummeting could both have forced her to sit down, whatever her intentions had been.

I think she had a shot to the chest and her waist, please don't make me look april...I am done in... :( :) :) :) :)

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Re: Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report
« Reply #101 on: September 12, 2012, 08:57:PM »
Nope, I'm telling lies, you are correct Patti.  :-[

No worries Hartley...I have done wading through things for tonight...I doubt this evidence would hold up in court....I think he is guessing with the limited information he had... :-\ :) :) :)

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Re: Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report FAO Alias
« Reply #102 on: October 14, 2014, 10:46:PM »
Bump FAO Alias. Note Hartley was wrong again lololol see previous message.  Hi Hartley!  ;)

Alias the report is #1 of the thread. 


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Re: Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report FAO Alias
« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2014, 10:58:PM »
Bump FAO Alias. Note Hartley was wrong again lololol see previous message.  Hi Hartley!  ;)

Alias the report is #1 of the thread.

It is unclear if he is alleging June got out of bed on Nevill's side, bled a little there and then walked around to the other side where she collapsed or he is sgguesting she got out of bed on her side, walked around to Nevill's side and then returned to her side again.

Like him and Harters I have seen no evidence the drops near Sheila's body were June's.  He seems to sugges tit had to be June's because  it coudl not be Sheila's in his estimation.  He doesn't acocunt for Nevill or the blood dripping there from the killer/weapon.

Like Harters I don't think June walked around the bed to Nevill's side and then walked back to hers.  It is I suppose possible she decided to get out of bed on Nevill's side and then walked to the door but I have not seen anything to prove it.  Also if tha thad happened and she wasn't shot near the door then her backspatter while being shot in bed traveled far to reach the back of the door and even moreso it is obvious that means the killer would have had her blood on him/her in the form of high velocity spatter.
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Re: Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell's report FAO Alias
« Reply #104 on: October 14, 2014, 11:05:PM »
It is unclear if he is alleging June got out of bed on Nevill's side, bled a little there and then walked around to the other side where she collapsed or he is sgguesting she got out of bed on her side, walked around to Nevill's side and then returned to her side again.

Like him and Harters I have seen no evidence the drops near Sheila's body were June's.  He seems to sugges tit had to be June's because  it coudl not be Sheila's in his estimation.  He doesn't acocunt for Nevill or the blood dripping there from the killer/weapon.

Like Harters I don't think June walked around the bed to Nevill's side and then walked back to hers.  It is I suppose possible she decided to get out of bed on Nevill's side and then walked to the door but I have not seen anything to prove it.  Also if tha thad happened and she wasn't shot near the door then her backspatter while being shot in bed traveled far to reach the back of the door and even moreso it is obvious that means the killer would have had her blood on him/her in the form of high velocity spatter.

I can see where he is coming from. He looks at the trace marks on the right hand side of the bed that might relate to June having been shot whilst laying on that side of the bed.

If you look closely at the position where June is finally laid, you will note that she had a shot to her shoulder and as she fell there is trace evidence on the door behind her.  June fell backwards into the door of she was sat at the time....But if you were to stand June up from her laying position you will see that she is at the bottom of the bed facing Sheila's side before she fell backwards into the door. The trace evidence supports this.  So thus might mean that the killer was in fact stood where Sheila's feet were or in that area.  :-\ :-\ :-\