OFFICIAL - CCRC DECISION - REFERRAL DENIED

[Patti]

Cigarette burns on a living body.....http://dermnetnz.org/reactions/img/burn2.jpg

Another burn mark: http://www.childabuseconsulting.com/burn3.jpg

Another cigarette burn on an arm...http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/amy-winehouse-burn-victim_582x426.jpg

[ngb1066]

I did warn you all the weekend of today's outcome Guys.
Bamber has had  good Lawyer now and with the same result.
I'm sorry Jackie that you have egg all over your face again, you don't see all the evidence in this case that points to his Guilt.
I know many of you won't change your mind or get on with your lives.
You must ask each other though, why do all the different judges after reviewing all the evidence STILL come to the same conclusion.
Oh Patti, You can come up with all the name calling and excuses you like.  :'(

I will leave you with this and there is no need for me to come back, for today's announcement says it all.
Mr G, i don't need to come on here and make you look an Idiot. you are more than capable of doing that yourself.


Goodbye and all the best. 

Tracey.

Goodbye TC, and thank you for your great insight into the case.  I wish we had been offered the benefit of your carefully reasoned analysis of the evidence earlier, as we could then all have packed up and gone home.

[josmitz]

Steve Battram is not an expert on the Bamber case.  He certainly has no inside knowledge.  He claims to have met Jeremy in HMP Full Sutton when he was serving a sentence.  Jeremy has no recollection of Steve Battram but it may be that their paths crossed at some stage.  Steve Battram clearly did not like Jeremy, which is fair enough, but he is no more qualified than anyone else to express a view on his guilt or innocence.

That's a fair point, i retract.

[JackiePreece]

Quite honestly TC what you have written is complete rubbish.

There has been a lot going on that you know nothing about.
To some people this case is a big game and people I have named are involved in this case for their own personal reasons i e money etc

Heading up the Official Campain Team is someone that has only been involved for about two years and has no legal expertise

At the moment I really don't like Jeremy vert much because he is influenced by these people I am talking about
They are very bad for him and convinced him for months this referral was a walk in the park

These people just days before a ccrc decision have mauled Mark Williams Thomas documentary actually telling outright lies the documentary was 90% anti Bamber and even went as far as saying it was a set up by MWT to keep Jeremy in prison
How evil is that
I am sure MWT would love to do a follow up documentary much longer but these people are trying to push him away

It doesn't matter what I think personally about Jeremy but I still 100% believe this is a miscarriage of justice and I 100% believe the conviction will be overturned if the right people are allowed to concentrate on just the case and not get dragged into stupid jealous politics

Jeremy needs to wise up to the people closest to him at the moment or he doesn't stand a chance of getting his conviction overturned

[lonny]

Have a look at this twitter, and i just came across it about 2 mins ago.

http://twitter.com/#!/crimewriter1

I'm only saying this as i don't like to see people have the wool pulled over their eyes.

Hahaha...you need to do your homework, he spams nearly all the justice sites with his rambling nonsense

[lonny]

Steve Battram is not an expert on the Bamber case.  He certainly has no inside knowledge.  He claims to have met Jeremy in HMP Full Sutton when he was serving a sentence.  Jeremy has no recollection of Steve Battram but it may be that their paths crossed at some stage.  Steve Battram clearly did not like Jeremy, which is fair enough, but he is no more qualified than anyone else to express a view on his guilt or innocence.

He claims to have met EVERY prisoner who insists on innocence, he's all over the Inside time online edition, most people laugh at him. In fact, I've yet to see him back anyone, I thought he was the poster "Witchfinder"

[JackiePreece]

Thanks Lonny I noticed he was all over Inside Time 

[ngb1066]

He claims to have met EVERY prisoner who insists on innocence, he's all over the Inside time online edition, most people laugh at him. In fact, I've yet to see him back anyone, I thought he was the poster "Witchfinder"

That is very interesting Lonny.  Do you know what Steve Battram's criminal record is for?  The reason I ask is that he received an 18 year sentence the final time and he claimed to have been on C wing at HMP Full Sutton and he claims to have met Jeremy there.  Jeremy says that he has never been on C wing as that is reserved for sex offenders.

 

[Buddy]

As a lot of you on here know I have never been 100% that Jeremy is innocent, but I find the decision by the CCRC disappointing.
Why not refer, and find him guilty again and put the case to rest once and for all.
The refusal just make me believe that EP have something to hide. After all they did destroy a lot of evidence, which was unlawful because appeals were ongoing.
I do think that the whole life tariff is appropriate if it is PROVED that Jeremy was guilty, but sadly it has not been proved.
I hope Simon can salvage something from this mess. Keeping a person incarcerated because of compensation is not justice, it is criminal.
If Jeremy is inncent I hope he bears up.

[tyler]

It was the decision that I expected.
The submissions that were put to the CCRC (if you read between the lines (were pretty much allegations of corruption toward EP and JB's relatives.CCRC have probably been told under no circumstances to refer the case to the court of appeal.

Aside from that,the government probably didnt want JB's case overshadowing the Olympics and The Queens Jubilee!

I think that SM should take EP to court to gain all the files from the original investigation.

[Buddy]

It was the decision that I expected.
The submissions that were put to the CCRC (if you read between the lines (were pretty much allegations of corruption toward EP and JB's relatives.CCRC have probably been told under no circumstances to refer the case to the court of appeal.

Aside from that,the government probably didnt want JB's case overshadowing the Olympics and The Queens Jubilee!

I think that SM should take EP to court to gain all the files from the original investigation.

I agree with you Tyler, But those files will never be disclosed, and I am certain I know why.

[josmitz]

I agree with you Tyler, But those files will never be disclosed, and I am certain I know why.

They won't be disclosed because they will reveal the botched up crime scene and initial investigation by the police, but that doesn't mean JB is innocent, it means that EP are covering their professional and personal pride and duty. Call it a white lie if you like, a learning lesson. It's probably against the law what EP are doing, but that's another matter, as far as they were concerned they were certain of JB's guilt and had to slightly bend the rules to convict him.  Most people would accept that i am sure they are a lot better trained at dealing with crime scenes since then. 

Look at the Iraq war for example the law was circumnavigated there, it does happen.

[haughton]

tyler, I agree with your comments;  how can the CCRC ignore the facts?  They could surerly see that there is no proof of JB's guilt., it is all assumption There plenty of DOUBT, he must be guilty "without a shadow of doubt". But, as you say, "cans of worms" embarrassment, red faces, enormous compensation!
External pressure? could be

[Nuala]

tyler, I agree with your comments;  how can the CCRC ignore the facts?  They could surerly see that there is no proof of JB's guilt., it is all assumption There plenty of DOUBT, he must be guilty "without a shadow of doubt". But, as you say, "cans of worms" embarrassment, red faces, enormous compensation!
External pressure? could be

Yes, Haughton, and political pressure and vested interests.

[Jane]

And hidden agendas?