How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...

[curiousessex]

Ok, so why would they discuss 'fostering' when again I ask you, was it June & Neville's call to make? When support was already in place?

I concur most particularly as Colin already had direct involvement in terms of custody.

One would have thought Nevill and June, if they were trying to get involved would have included Colin within the discussions.

It was not as if Colin was a persona non grata at the farm............. he gave Sheila a lift to WHF for the planned week's visit.

[guest154]

With respect, I disagree. Sheila was greatly dependent on her parents' financial support.

June and Nevill bought and owned the luxury flat in London where Sheila lived with the twins. Sheila was on benefits and rarely worked, she could never have afforded this flat had her parents not financed it.

Sheila's lifestyle with her friends, who Powell calls the 'Gorgeous Girls', the clothes Sheila wore to the weekly glamour parties with lines of coke on the table that Powell states Sheila's friends told her Sheila attended - all of this was subsidised by support from Nevill and June.

This, in my opinion, suggests that June and Nevill would have had considerable influence over Sheila's and the twins lives.

Influence, yes. But I'm sure if I didn't work and My Mum and Dad could afford if they would get me a house and ensure I was happy.  Big difference between helping out with a house and telling you to put your kids into care.

[Nuala]

I've never believed that there was conversation the night of the murders about the children being taken into care because, as you say, their Dad was more than capabale to have them.

I've always felt this conversation was fabricated by Jeremy.

I believe the evidence suggests you are wrong.

[maggie]

That is such a cop out, this if perpetrated by Jeremy Bamber was a cold blooded, premeditated killing of the two boys he loved his mum and dad and sister.  You really believe that a totally rational person could do what he was found guilty of.  You have a strange attitue to how peoples mindsd work.  I would concede there may be many people who have killed in the heat of the moment but you must have a very narrow mind to believe this is in any way normal behaviour. 

[vidvic]

So mat do you believe jeremy had a personality disorder eventho he has been found not to have any such thing.  Do you believe that any person without a personality dissorder can gaily say 'tonights the night' and rush off to shoot his entire family.  He would have to look these people in the eye as he shot them mat. Please  explain how Jeremy Bamber found he could do this, could you?

The defence on the eve of the trial were quite despondent when a psychologist told them he believed bamber to be a psychopath. I have seen at least one tv interview where a psychologist describes bamber as a stereotypical psychopath, so am not sure what you're basing this post on? According to the official web site 26 doctors have said he's perfectly normal but who were these doctors? Why has he been tested so many times and why? Is there a list? Where is the evidence these tests were done?

[vidvic]

I believe the evidence suggests you are wrong.

What evidence? There is none.

[guest154]

There is a lot of hearsay in this case though and what one person says as fact another will shoot down. got to read between the lines.

If a conversation did occur i don't beleive it was as serious as Jeremy makes out.

That is such a cop out, this if perpetrated by Jeremy Bamber was a cold blooded, premeditated killing of the two boys he loved his mum and dad and sister.  You really believe that a totally rational person could do what he was found guilty of.  You have a strange attitue to how peoples mindsd work.  I would concede there may be many people who have killed in the heat of the moment but you must have a very narrow mind to believe this is in any way normal behaviour. 

Not saying it is normal behaviour. But Parents have been killed over inheritence thousands of tiems. I remember working a case in 2002 where a Mother was shot by her loving son for taking away his games console.
Or there was a case recently in the papers where a son had killed his mother and set the house on fire to pretend someone else had done it.

Nothing shocks me.

[vidvic]

I wouldn't say I was interested in it. I'd read about it in the early 90's and it had stuck in my mind. Then I heard that this case would be coming to the office - that must have been november last year when I first heard that so  I read up again on it a little.

Yeah, 17. Think they cal them 'points of concern'.


There are hundreds of killers that have done the same as he did.

17 you say?

[guest154]

The defence on the eve of the trial were quite despondent when a psychologist told them he believed bamber to be a psychopath. I have seen at least one tv interview where a psychologist describes bamber as a stereotypical psychopath, so am not sure what you're basing this post on? According to the official web site 26 doctors have said he's perfectly normal but who were these doctors? Why has he been tested so many times and why? Is there a list? Where is the evidence these tests were done?

I've also seen him reffered to as a 'typical psycopath.'
But some people seem to take it as fact when others say he isn't.

[guest154]

17 you say?

Points of concern? Yes.

[jon]

The defence on the eve of the trial were quite despondent when a psychologist told them he believed bamber to be a psychopath. I have seen at least one tv interview where a psychologist describes bamber as a stereotypical psychopath, so am not sure what you're basing this post on? According to the official web site 26 doctors have said he's perfectly normal but who were these doctors? Why has he been tested so many times and why? Is there a list? Where is the evidence these tests were done?

The psychologist you saw on TV as never met JB !! More nonsense !!

[guest154]

The psychologist you saw on TV as never met JB !! More nonsense !!

And the 26 ones that said he isn't actually met Jeremy? He's spent hundreds of hours with different doctors then.

[jon]

The defence on the eve of the trial were quite despondent when a psychologist told them he believed bamber to be a psychopath. I have seen at least one tv interview where a psychologist describes bamber as a stereotypical psychopath, so am not sure what you're basing this post on? According to the official web site 26 doctors have said he's perfectly normal but who were these doctors? Why has he been tested so many times and why? Is there a list? Where is the evidence these tests were done?

Where did you read this ?

[jon]

And the 26 ones that said he isn't actually met Jeremy? He's spent hundreds of hours with different doctors then.

Being convicted of the crimes JB as mean's you get tested yearly , would you free him if you saw all 26 doctor's notes , would you Vic ?

[maggie]

The defence on the eve of the trial were quite despondent when a psychologist told them he believed bamber to be a psychopath. I have seen at least one tv interview where a psychologist describes bamber as a stereotypical psychopath, so am not sure what you're basing this post on? According to the official web site 26 doctors have said he's perfectly normal but who were these doctors? Why has he been tested so many times and why? Is there a list? Where is the evidence these tests were done?

The results are on the forum, it is what happens in prison for high sec prisoners they test them each year.