Bamber guilty, surely!

[tyler]

I struggle with it too....

Phone call at 3:26......no mention of any shooting to Jeremy or the police.....No blood was found on the telephone either.

22 minutes later all the family appear to be dead........

One thing I have thought of and that is......Shelia could have well been in the kitchen with her father; uninjured at the time.  She could have heard that police were outside and gone back upstairs in order not to be seen.....Then shot herself. On saying that the main bedroom window was open, but yet no one heard any shots.

This is the first I have heard that there was a window open? Please could you point me in the direction where there is evidence of this?

[ajross]

He just decided to up sticks and go for some reason. I think he took offence because someone called him a newbie or something?

Sika posted in another thread that he is from Maldon and new the case as a youngster and that he has followed it ever since. He seemed to be offended at a comment directed at new members thinking they know everything. As a new member myself I can somewhat understand this but I also understand ( from having read several particularly malicious things on here) that there is some concern regarding trolls.mi'm sure in the beginning that people regarded me as a troll as I don't always seem to be fully in agreement with the innocence but I am merely trying to get opinions and develop my own understanding. Overall I find the whole experience positive but have been wary this week of what I thought was an influx of possible trolls.

[Patti]

This is the first I have heard that there was a window open? Please could you point me in the direction where there is evidence of this?

Hi Tyler...The raid team statements say it was open and if you look at the main bedroom photographs, you will see that the window is open......only a few inches 3 at the most....

[ngb1066]

Sika posted in another thread that he is from Maldon and new the case as a youngster and that he has followed it ever since. He seemed to be offended at a comment directed at new members thinking they know everything. As a new member myself I can somewhat understand this but I also understand ( from having read several particularly malicious things on here) that there is some concern regarding trolls.mi'm sure in the beginning that people regarded me as a troll as I don't always seem to be fully in agreement with the innocence but I am merely trying to get opinions and develop my own understanding. Overall I find the whole experience positive but have been wary this week of what I thought was an influx of possible trolls.

I want to make it clear that nobody is regarded as a troll simply because of a belief in Jeremy Bamber's guilt.  Mike Tesko has always made it clear that all viewpoints are welcome on this forum, provided that they are expressed in a respectful manner.  Sometimes arguments become heated, but that is to be expected when discussing a case which involves five horrific deaths, and someone who is protesting his innocence after 27 years in prison.   We have had problems with trolls in the past but we have usually been able to spot them and deal with them before they have had an opportunity to disrupt the forum.  I do not know if Sika was a troll.  Some had suspicions as did I but his posts did not warrant action being taken.  Sika deleted his own profile, for reasons which seemed rather thin, but that was his decision and not the result of any administrator action.

[ajross]

ajross.........Sheilas underwear was soaking in a bucket as she had got "caught short" with her period.She was menstruating at the time of her death.

Susan........I,along with yourself and many others am in agreement regarding the relatives.I think that they acted appallingly and were interested in only one thing.

Did Sika leave of his own accord.or was he magicked away?Personally,I thought he was a moron! 

I have heard before about this happening to Sheila but unsure whether it was the truth or not, there was a long thread about an applicator found in the living room, I just think it a strange place to leave them.

[ajross]

I want to make it clear that nobody is regarded as a troll simply because of a belief in Jeremy Bamber's guilt.  Mike Tesko has always made it clear that all viewpoints are welcome on this forum, provided that they are expressed in a respectful manner.  Sometimes arguments become heated, but that is to be expected when discussing a case which involves five horrific deaths, and someone who is protesting his innocence after 27 years in prison.   We have had problems with trolls in the past but we have usually been able to spot them and deal with them before they have had an opportunity to disrupt the forum.  I do not know if Sika was a troll.  Some had suspicions as did I but his posts did not warrant action being taken.  Sika deleted his own profile, for reasons which seemed rather thin, but that was his decision and not the result of any administrator action.

Thank you, and I am by no means attempting to take issue with anything, as I say, I am finding it a very positive experience and am learning lots about the case.

[Patti]

I have heard before about this happening to Sheila but unsure whether it was the truth or not, there was a long thread about an applicator found in the living room, I just think it a strange place to leave them.

Can I ask where the evidence is regarding the applicator and underwear soaking in a bucket please? )

[G]

Sika posted in another thread that he is from Maldon and new the case as a youngster and that he has followed it ever since. He seemed to be offended at a comment directed at new members thinking they know everything. As a new member myself I can somewhat understand this but I also understand ( from having read several particularly malicious things on here) that there is some concern regarding trolls.mi'm sure in the beginning that people regarded me as a troll as I don't always seem to be fully in agreement with the innocence but I am merely trying to get opinions and develop my own understanding. Overall I find the whole experience positive but have been wary this week of what I thought was an influx of possible trolls.

As it happens I too live in Maldon and knew the case from the beginning I was a bit older than JB and I thought when I heard the verdict, how on earth could the jury convict on that evidence which to my mind was not evidence. Unfortunately regarding trolls we have had particularly bad experiences and abuse from another forum which shall remain nameless. I understand people's concern that they may be regarded as trolls. So we are always cautious when people come steaming in declaring that they know everything there is to know about the case when there are old timers on the forum who have themselves made an alround study of these things. I personally regard this forum to be one of the best places to come to far research of the case and it isn't just a collection of wild theories as some seem to view it and have even mentioned before thay have made any serious posts themselves.

[Patti]

According to the pathologist report....Shelia had a small amount of blood in her uterus also an intrauterine device fitted...he goes on to say that she was in the early stages of menopause.....plus a tampon fitted.

It is common that some women can be very short tempered and angry during a period or before....

[G]

This is the first I have heard that there was a window open? Please could you point me in the direction where there is evidence of this?

You'll find it here Tyler http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1629.0.html He says there were no lights on and that there were no windows open except for Nevill Bambers room where the window was pulled down about 3 inches. I assume it was a sash window? It is not uncommon for people to open their bedroom windows slightly to let some air in during the night.

[ajross]

Can I ask where the evidence is regarding the applicator and underwear soaking in a bucket please? )

There is a whole thread about an applicator on the forum with much of it i believe posted by mike but I wait to be corrected on who it was. I believe ht is also where the underwear is mentioned

[Patti]

There is a whole thread about an applicator on the forum with much of it i believe posted by mike but I wait to be corrected on who it was. I believe ht is also where the underwear is mentioned

Thank you Ajross....

[ajross]

As it happens I too live in Maldon and knew the case from the beginning I was a bit older than JB and I thought when I heard the verdict, how on earth could the jury convict on that evidence which to my mind was not evidence. Unfortunately regarding trolls we have had particularly bad experiences and abuse from another forum which shall remain nameless. I understand people's concern that they may be regarded as trolls. So we are always cautious when people come steaming in declaring that they know everything there is to know about the case when there are old timers on the forum who have themselves made an alround study of these things. I personally regard this forum to be one of the best places to come to far research of the case and it isn't just a collection of wild theories as some seem to view it and have even mentioned before thay have made any serious posts themselves.

I completely agree with you. I have stated on here before that I was a kid staying at my father's in tollesbury at the time. On a completely unrelated note, we used to get something called bean rounders from Maldon, never seen them anywhere else! I Been amazed but the wealth of info and knowledge on here

[susan]

Patti  I read the bucket with the bloodstained panties was found on the table near to where Neville was and the empty tampon was on a table in the lounge.

[susan]

ajross  I think everything Sheila was doing and thinking was very strange and  appeared to me she was being defiant towards Neville I read earlier his PJ,s were down around his shins  and it has been said they were as back then rather prudish about Sheila and her sexual activities.