Could Someone other than Jeremy or Sheila have comitted the murders at WHF?

[Elizabeth]

Is it possible that someone other than Jeremy or Sheila could be responsible for the murders that took place at White House Farm? Or is it certain that it can only be either one or the other? I think that there is another person who had motive for the killings, and could have possibly carried them out. I am not going to say that individual's name, obviously, and i am only speculating here. But to me, the person in question is highly suspicious, for a number of reasons.

[Pete0001]

Your quite right.. the idea that it was either Jeremy or Sheila is just logical speculation... but the Police say Sheila didn't do it (now), JB say's he didn't do it... No reason to think a third isn't possible... but a whole lot of work to introduce now I would think.

[Kaldin]

Is it possible that someone other than Jeremy or Sheila could be responsible for the murders that took place at White House Farm? Or is it certain that it can only be either one or the other? I think that there is another person who had motive for the killings, and could have possibly carried them out. I am not going to say that individual's name, obviously, and i am only speculating here. But to me, the person in question is highly suspicious, for a number of reasons.

If Neville phoned Jeremy then Sheila did it. If Neville didn't phone Jeremy, then Jeremy did it, or he got someone else to do it. I deduce from that that it must have been either Sheila or Jeremy.

[Elizabeth]

Thank you both for your replies!

If Neville phoned Jeremy then Sheila did it. If Neville didn't phone Jeremy, then Jeremy did it, or he got someone else to do it. I deduce from that that it must have been either Sheila or Jeremy.

I see what you mean, but isn't it possible that a third party could have forced Neville Bamber to make that call to Jeremy, so that Jeremy could then be set up for the murders?

[andrea]

or even to get jeremy to the farmhouse then he could have been killed aswell?

[Kaldin]

Thank you both for your replies!

If Neville phoned Jeremy then Sheila did it. If Neville didn't phone Jeremy, then Jeremy did it, or he got someone else to do it. I deduce from that that it must have been either Sheila or Jeremy.

I see what you mean, but isn't it possible that a third party could have forced Neville Bamber to make that call to Jeremy, so that Jeremy could then be set up for the murders?

Ooooh, interesting theory - very interesting. Worth thinking about anyway. You mean they got Neville to phone Jeremy to get Jeremy over to the house either to set him up or to kill him too?

[andrea]

if there is a posiibility of a third person being responsible, then yeah why not .

[andrea]

neville was also growing opium poppies under government license for a pharmaceutical company.So if there was a third person could this have had any significance.just a thought.

[Kaldin]

if there is a posiibility of a third person being responsible, then yeah why not .

Hmmmmm, this is most interesting. So if Jeremy had been killed too, who would profit from that?

If the aim was to get Jeremy to the house and set him up, who would profit from that? Several people I suppose, but to speculate could be libellous.

There is a sticking point in this theory though. If there was a third party and they wanted to get Jeremy over to the house for whatever reason, would they have made Neville say that Sheila had a gun? They couldn't know how Jeremy would react to that - I would think it would have made him too scared to go over on his own, and they couldn't discount the possibility of him calling the police. Would they not have come up with something which would be more likely to get him over there?

[andrea]

and also, a third person would have had to have knowledge of june and sheilas religious beliefs, as the bible is heavily involved.

[Elizabeth]

Quote from: andrea on Today at 04:35 PM

neville was also growing opium poppies under government license for a pharmaceutical company.So if there was a third person could this have had any significance.just a thought.

Oh, i didn't know that. Interesting!

Well, yes, Someone could have forced Neville to call Jeremy, hoping he would get to the farmhouse before the police. I didn't mean "for them to kill him", but to set him up for the murders. Also, i wasn't meaning an "unknown" person, but rather, someone closer to home.

[andrea]

like i said in my earlier post if there was a 3rd person they would have known about the religious beliefs of june an d sheila with the bible being heavily involved, and only a person closer to home would know that. i think there is a post on here that mentions something about a relatives car being parked on pages lane the day of the murders, ill have another look for the post.

[Kaldin]

There's a lot of stuff in Robert Boutflour's diary about drugs - something to do with the grandson of Mrs Foakes.

[mike tesko]

like i said in my earlier post if there was a 3rd person they would have known about the religious beliefs of june an d sheila with the bible being heavily involved, and only a person closer to home would know that. i think there is a post on here that mentions something about a relatives car being parked on pages lane the day of the murders, ill have another look for the post.

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Yes, a car belonging to a distant relative who was working on the farm at that time - this person took a tractor back to Osea Road caravan park that night, leaving his vehicle parked up outside whf, overnight...

[mike tesko]

Police find a den in a nearby copse, where someone had been sleeping rough, around the time of the shootings...

Here is yet another twist in the tale, of who might have been responsible, for killing the family...