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NewChilledOutHartley

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #105 on: May 21, 2012, 10:22:AM »
Was that an alsation? Can you link to the record lookout?

It's just from Shaws Manuscript, which lacks references and contains more errors than it does facts.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jP4ZtW5Off0J:www.sleuthingforjustice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D2445

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Another incident occurred that morning which never saw the light of day. PC Mercer (dog handler) had brought with him to the farm his Alsatian dog which was specially trained to ‘sniff’ for explosives, firearms or signs that a person had recently handled a firearm. The police would claim Jeremy – only a few hours earlier – had discharged twenty-five rounds and reloaded at least twice during the attack. The sniffer dog approached Jeremy and carried out his trained role without a positive result.

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« Reply #106 on: May 21, 2012, 10:25:AM »
Hi Grahame,,,,I'm not ignoring you. I'm now trying to find that link on the Alsatian dog. The handler was a PC Mercer.

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« Reply #107 on: May 21, 2012, 10:32:AM »
Hi Grahame,,,,I'm not ignoring you. I'm now trying to find that link on the Alsatian dog. The handler was a PC Mercer.

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« Reply #108 on: May 21, 2012, 10:36:AM »
It's just from Shaws Manuscript, which lacks references and contains more errors than it does facts.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jP4ZtW5Off0J:www.sleuthingforjustice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D2445

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Another incident occurred that morning which never saw the light of day. PC Mercer (dog handler) had brought with him to the farm his Alsatian dog which was specially trained to ‘sniff’ for explosives, firearms or signs that a person had recently handled a firearm. The police would claim Jeremy – only a few hours earlier – had discharged twenty-five rounds and reloaded at least twice during the attack. The sniffer dog approached Jeremy and carried out his trained role without a positive result.


I agree that it is a pity Shaw did not give the basis for saying PC Mercer's dog was trained to sniff for gunshot residue.  It is not something all police dogs are trained to do.  Shaw may be right but without further information we cannot be sure.  The obvious solution is to speak to PC Mercer.


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« Reply #109 on: May 21, 2012, 10:38:AM »
Now that I read it again I think I see what you are saying, but at the time I thought you were suggesting that all police dogs would be capable of detecting gun shot residue.
No I wasn't saying that. That it appears is a dog specially trained for that purpose. Probably one of those airport dogs owned and trained for that purpose?
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« Reply #110 on: May 21, 2012, 10:39:AM »
Hi Lookout  perhaps 27 years ago different dogs were used for different activities but I do know they use Spaniel dogs for sniffing.  Wish I had not mentioned it off to the weed the garden the other forum have such a laugh when I say I,m off to weed the garden it is better they are laughing than crying.  Speak later my friend.

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« Reply #111 on: May 21, 2012, 10:41:AM »
No I wasn't saying that. That it appears is a dog specially trained for that perpose. Probably one of those airport dogs owned and trained for that purpose?

Ok, I think we understand one another now.
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« Reply #112 on: May 21, 2012, 10:41:AM »
It's just from Shaws Manuscript, which lacks references and contains more errors than it does facts.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jP4ZtW5Off0J:www.sleuthingforjustice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D2445

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Another incident occurred that morning which never saw the light of day. PC Mercer (dog handler) had brought with him to the farm his Alsatian dog which was specially trained to ‘sniff’ for explosives, firearms or signs that a person had recently handled a firearm. The police would claim Jeremy – only a few hours earlier – had discharged twenty-five rounds and reloaded at least twice during the attack. The sniffer dog approached Jeremy and carried out his trained role without a positive result.

Well from that I am willing to accept that it was an alsation. As I said, because it was that type of suspected crime where the villian was armed that would have been the dog suitable for that purpose.
As to whether it was specially trained to sniff out explosives? I am doubtful and would like to know where Shaw got that information?

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« Reply #113 on: May 21, 2012, 10:45:AM »
Hi Lookout  perhaps 27 years ago different dogs were used for different activities but I do know they use Spaniel dogs for sniffing.  Wish I had not mentioned it off to the weed the garden the other forum have such a laugh when I say I,m off to weed the garden it is better they are laughing than crying.  Speak later my friend.
Don't worry about them Susan. They are just the court fools who giggle about anything. There remind me of the inbred swamp people on TV. ;D
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« Reply #114 on: May 21, 2012, 10:55:AM »
Hi Grahame  have given up worrying about them it seems so strange to me that is they find me so amusing with my silly Yorkshire accent why they don,t come on here and debate with me they have stated any information I have on Yorkshire I have googled it.  On reflection please don,t come over to us just have a good laugh at me.

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« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2012, 11:10:AM »
Hi Grahame  have given up worrying about them it seems so strange to me that is they find me so amusing with my silly Yorkshire accent why they don,t come on here and debate with me they have stated any information I have on Yorkshire I have googled it.  On reflection please don,t come over to us just have a good laugh at me.
Well I haven't noticed your Yorkshire accent? ;D

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« Reply #116 on: May 21, 2012, 11:17:AM »
Hi Grahame  I think if you met me you would notice it but I am not quite as hilly billy as some thank God as even I cannot understand what they are talking about :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #117 on: May 21, 2012, 11:25:AM »
Now that I've finished talking to my neighbour ( she'd talk a glass eye to sleep ) I see that you're all now in the know.
Susan,I don't mind your Yorkshire accent.I spent a lot of my childhood " on holiday " with relatives who lived in Riddlesdon,Keighley. x

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« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2012, 11:28:AM »
Ngb would you say that it was very likely a dog used to sniff gun residue etc would have been called as the basis of the initial investigation/phone call was My sister has gone crazy and she has a gun

There are numerous police dogs in Essex that could have been chosen that night
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« Reply #119 on: May 21, 2012, 11:28:AM »
Now that I've finished talking to my neighbour ( she'd talk a glass eye to sleep ) I see that you're all now in the know.
Susan,I don't mind your Yorkshire accent.I spent a lot of my childhood " on holiday " with relatives who lived in Riddlesdon,Keighley. x
I think the Yorshire accent is a friendly accent. If you can describe an accent in those terms. ;D