Sniffer dog

[bloggs and son]

Unfortunately not. If you can find any reference to a 'sniffer dog', then let's see it please.

Not sure where they got their information from. Perhaps it will help if some enthusiastic person got in touch with Shaw and Lomax and ask them where they did get it from? But it appears that the logs only refer to a dog unit, which is a common practice where backup is needed. Having said that, all police dogs are "sniffer" dogs, or they wouldn't be much use as police dogs in tracking criminals. The dogs used at airports though are expecially trained to sniff out drugs and perhaps explosives.

[Bridget]

Not sure where they got their information from. Perhaps it will help if some enthusiastic person got in touch with Shaw and Lomax and ask them where they did get it from? But it appears that the logs only refer to a dog unit, which is a common practice where backup is needed. Having said that, all police dogs are "sniffer" dogs, or they wouldn't be much use as police dogs in tracking criminals. The dogs used at airports though are expecially trained to sniff out drugs and perhaps explosives.

Not all police dogs are sniffer dogs, most are just trained to apprehend. And I still haven't seen any evidence that the dog was even got out of the van.

[Bridget]

Which seems to agree with:


MASTER OVERVIEW LOG

0458hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
Firearms team and dog unit off at scene

0459hrs (LOG 1)
HQ units arrive (2 x transits) plus CG6 (PC’s Lay and Batchelor) plus dog unit (PC 1422 Mercer) PS Adams incharge of firearms unit.

0508hrs (LOG 1)
Fireamrs unit to house.

0512hrs (LOG 1)
Request for dog handler.

0515hrs (LOG 1)
Dog handler return for flack jacket and return to house.

0842hrs (LOG 1)
Dog unit from scene (PC Mercer)

If they were recording that amount of detail you'd think they'd mention an 'official sniffing'.

[susan]

Morning Bridget  I have been reading today,s posts and I was wondering what other duties police dogs have other than sniffing out gunshot residue and drugs.  Maybe to attack criminals but would have thought they would be "all rounders" as they each have their own handler.

[Bridget]

Morning Bridget  I have been reading today,s posts and I was wondering what other duties police dogs have other than sniffing out gunshot residue and drugs.  Maybe to attack criminals but would have thought they would be "all rounders" as they each have their own handler.

Morning Susan, there's quite a bit of info on them online, try this from the met police:

http://www.met.police.uk/dogsupport/

[bloggs and son]

Not all police dogs are sniffer dogs, most are just trained to apprehend. And I still haven't seen any evidence that the dog was even got out of the van.

Sorry to contradict you Bridget. If they were not all sniffer dogs they would not be able to carry out their duties to apprehend. They are ALL trained to track and that is what I meant by that and I rather think you know what I meant?

[susan]

Hi Bridget  just been corrected (again) by my husband who works in the Criminal Justice System that  sniffer dogs are Spaniels and dogs used for apprehending criminals would be an Alsatian I will read your thread anyhow  it would be so funny if he was wrong Ha Ha

[bloggs and son]

Morning Susan, there's quite a bit of info on them online, try this from the met police:

http://www.met.police.uk/dogsupport/

Which includes sniffingas you can see:

he dogs and handlers have a variety of skills.

General Purpose Dogs, usually German or Belgian Shepherd Dogs, patrol London with their handlers. They have a range of skills, including:

    Searching for suspects and missing people.
    Locating objects dropped or concealed during a criminal incident.
    Following a track left by a person on the ground.
    Chasing and detaining a person who runs away when challenged to stop.
    Disarming violent armed suspects and controlling hostile crowds.

[Bridget]

Sorry to contradict you Bridget. If they were not all sniffer dogs they would not be able to carry out their duties to apprehend. They are ALL trained to track and that is what I meant by that and I rather think you know what I meant?

By sniffer dog I mean a dog trained to detect specific scents, such as drugs or explosives. All dogs have good noses.

[lookout]

Good morning.
With the heaps of sites and links on this case,it's easy to get bogged down with conflicting stories on who or what was at the scene,and which of it is true.
I did see a section of there having been an Alsatian being brought to the farmhouse. At that particular time,Jeremy was outside,and as far as I can gather,because the dog was trained in sniffing out explosives and the like,there'd been nothing to detect on Jeremy. Whether the dog was ordered to search Jeremy,I don't know,but I'm pretty sure if there'd have been a scent,the dog would have reacted in some way.   

[bloggs and son]

Hi Bridget  just been corrected (again) by my husband who works in the Criminal Justice System that  sniffer dogs are Spaniels and dogs used for apprehending criminals would be an Alsatian I will read your thread anyhow  it would be so funny if he was wrong Ha Ha

Well in a sense he is wrong. As they also use spaniels and beagles to apprehend criminals as well. They don't use them to attack criminals. But they do use them to track criminals. There is no indication that the dog unit were either spaniels or Alsatians. Quite probably because of the nature of the suspected crime they were Alsatians?

[bloggs and son]

By sniffer dog I mean a dog trained to detect specific scents, such as drugs or explosives. All dogs have good noses.

But you DID know what I meant didn't you? if you read what I said in context.

[bloggs and son]

Good morning.
With the heaps of sites and links on this case,it's easy to get bogged down with conflicting stories on who or what was at the scene,and which of it is true.
I did see a section of there having been an Alsatian being brought to the farmhouse. At that particular time,Jeremy was outside,and as far as I can gather,because the dog was trained in sniffing out explosives and the like,there'd been nothing to detect on Jeremy. Whether the dog was ordered to search Jeremy,I don't know,but I'm pretty sure if there'd have been a scent,the dog would have reacted in some way.

Was that an alsation? Can you link to the record lookout?

[susan]

Hi Grahame  he has been known to be wrong but I think it depends what part of the Country we are talking about plus he is not in the police force better not tell him he could be wrong

[Bridget]

But you DID know what I meant didn't you? if you read what I said in context.

Now that I read it again I think I see what you are saying, but at the time I thought you were suggesting that all police dogs would be capable of detecting gun shot residue.