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Offline Nuala

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2012, 04:56:PM »
I would think the Dog Handler could be called at an appeal if necessary and there is nothing fictional about Mercer

No Ngb I have not spoken to him personally but Simon McKay has all the details.

I might go and speak to him though



Brilliant, Jackie, you've made my day! 

You were saying Vic and Nick....?

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2012, 05:09:PM »
I agree. The "evidence" relating to the police dog suggesting JB had no gun shot residue upon his person is totally unfounded - unless you wish to believe in a bit of fiction from David Shaw!

I personally would like to see the full court trial transcript to see if Rivlin picked up on this nugget of evidence in JB's defence?

Nick, I'm not sure if this is a help or a hindrance, but below is a copy of a post from Mike on the SFJ almost three years ago. It mentions the dog handler a few times.

Having said that, I have no idea where this information actually originates, perhaps Mike would be able to provide an insight.

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MASTER OVERVIEW LOG

0350hrs (LOG 1)
CA7 PS Bews, PC 1995 - 1509 arrive white house farm. Son in Vauxhall Astra (Jeremy) arrives.

0355hrs (LOG 1)
PS Bews, PC 1509 and son Jeremy recce house.

0402hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
FM CA7 - duty sergeant, 1 PC and Mr Bamber junior left vehicle and approaching house on foot, vehicle parked out of sight.

0403hrs (wireless message log)
All FSU stood down in ED and returning to HQ in preparation for firearms to be drawn.

0404hrs (communications log)
All FSU stood down in ED and returning to HQ in preparation for firearms to be drawn.

0409hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
FM CA7 - no signs of life in house all lights on in premises and two dogs going berserk, son says dogs are normally quiet. Son, PC and Sergeant backing off from premises

0412hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
Acting Inspector Targrass at CD informed of situation.

0418hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
Chief Supt’ Harris authorised the withdrawal of firearms Corroborated by Mr Simpson

0422hrs (LOG 1)
CA5 arrived at track. Liase with PS Bews. CA6 at end of track with road (PC Cracknell and Norcup).

0425hrs (LOG 1)
PS Bews and PC 1509 to recce house.

0427hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
Chief Inspt’ Clarke FSU informed of situation not attending

0430hrs (LOG 1)
PS Bews and PC 1509 return.
CG6 at bottom of lane. Leave to RV with unit from HQ at New Times PH, Tiptree.

0431hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
CA6 attending New Times PH Tiptree as escort for firearms team to farm house.

0435hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
QK26/QK50 attending scene along with QK25

0438hrs (LOG 4)
From Chief Supt’ Harris. ACC contacted. Authority given for firearms team to be activated. Unit will be under command of Acting Inspector Adams.

0452hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
CA6 heading back to farmhouse with firearms team under escort.

0458hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
Firearms team and dog unit off at scene

0459hrs (LOG 1)
HQ units arrive (2 x transits) plus CG6 (PC’s Lay and Batchelor) plus dog unit (PC 1422 Mercer) PS Adams incharge of firearms unit.

0508hrs (LOG 1)
Fireamrs unit to house.

0512hrs (LOG 1)
Request for dog handler.

0515hrs (LOG 1)
Dog handler return for flack jacket and return to house.

0518hrs (LOG 1)
PC Myall to house to stay with son Jeremy and PC’s to perimeter of area minimum 400 yards. CA5 to rear of farm.

0525hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
Firearms team are in conversation with a person from inside the farm

0528hrs (LOG 1)
PC Myall return, take CA7 (A101) around to house. Numerous challenges to house no response.

0529hrs (wireless message log and communications log)
From CA7 - challenge to persons inside house met with no response.

0534hrs (LOG 1)
Son Jeremy returns to track area with PC 1536 to phone girlfriend (CA6).

0538hrs (LOG 3)
From HQIR. Believed three adult + (3) 2 children in house. House contained. TFG challenged house on loudspeaker, no response (PS Adams Commander). Request from TFG at scene for Inspector Montgomery and six extra firearms personal (HQ arranging) Request for Mr Gibbons at scene.

0540hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 4)
N/R @ CW

0543hrs (LOG 1 and LOG 2 and LOG 3)
CA6 returns with son

0545hrs (LOG 1 and LOG 5)
From HQIR. Continue to try phone @ scene and GPO to recheck.

0547hrs
Phone engaged at scene

0548hrs
Request by TSU that 3 premises close to property be checked re hearing any possible noise


0549hrs
PS Adams advised that following checks at properties no noises heard by either family. 3rd family in Australia.

0550hrs
GPO monitoring phone and will contact CD if anything heard. HQIR informed.


0555hrs (LOG 2)
PS adams advised that following checks at properties no noises heard by either family, third family in Australia

0556hrs (LOG 2)
From VG. No change in telephone situation - still off hook. GPO monitoring - they can only hear dog barking at house.

0557hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3)
PS Adams advised.

0605hrs (LOG 1)
CA6 to end of lane with main road to await further firearms unit

0606hrs (LOG 4)
CW contacted and will inform Mr Gibbons.

0608hrs (LOG 4)
GPO to switch house phone to HQIR incident room via 9 system.

0610hrs (LOG 4)
Mr Gibbons informed and attending via Witham.

0620hrs (LOG 2)
Francis Anthony Seabrook, farm neighbour to be advised not to leave premises

0624hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3 and LOG 4)
Reliefs for night crews arranged.
Chief Supt’ Harris updated by Inspector Wilkinson.

0626hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3)
Request Chief Inspector or Inspector to attend scene (Chief Inspector already advised). Ambulance one requested to attend scene one standby.

0627hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3)
VG requested to listen for dog on telephone - negative

0632hrs (LOG 1)
CG32 to scene to relieve CW crew, PC Chaplin and WPC 3115 Dixon.

0637hrs (LOG 1)
Chief Inspector Clarke to farm track

0640hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3)
Chief Inspector Clark arrived

0646hrs (LOG 3)
ETA request of second F/A unit (few minutes)

0647hrs (LOG 1 and LOG 2 and LOG 3)
QE 24 arrived on scene.

0700hrs (LOG 1)
CA6 returns to track having escorted ambulances to scene

0702hrs (LOG 1)
QK24 Acting police sgt’ Moule and team arrive, go down to CP at farmhouse on foot (keys to vehicle under sun visor) 2 x ambulance 051 - 070 2 + 2 crew arrive. 051 from Witham, 070 from Malden.

0703hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3)
Additional support unit arrived. Two ambulances. VG advised CA7 all persons resident in Pages lane now advised of situation.

0705hrs (LOG 4)
Chief Supt’ Harris arrived at CD conveyed to crime scene by CA2 by PC Read.

0708hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 3)
Chief Inspector Gibbons arrived.

0712hrs (LOG 1)
CG10. Chief Inspector Gibbons arrives with PC Panting. C.I. Gibbons on foot to CP at farmhouse.

0725hrs (LOG 1)
Jeremy from CP to track for rest.

0730hrs (LOG 1 and LOG 2 and LOG 3)
(access) Entry gained - body found in kitchen male (and female).

0736hrs (LOG 1)
Witham ambulance crew reliefs.

0738hrs (LOG 2)
VG request Chief Supt’ - to be advised. DCI to attend scene. SOCO. Coroners officer informed. Police surgeon to attend.

0739hrs (LOG 1)
Chief Supt’ Harris arrives with PC 1445 Read in CA2. Mr Harris walks to farmhouse CP

0740hrs (LOG 4)
From Detective Inspector IR. Police entered premise. 1 male dead. 1 female dead. Inform DCI. SOCO. And police surgeon to be informed and attend.

0741hrs (LOG 2)
Chief Supt’ Harris arrives.

0743hrs (LOG 5)
PC Wright. Coroners officer, informed only.

0745hrs (LOG 5)
SOCO DS Davidson informed and attending, ETA half hour at CD.

0747hrs (LOG 5)
Police surgeon requested via CW.

0754hrs (LOG 2)
From VG - Inspector Montgomery
1. From Inspector Good, can seminar be cancelled
2. F.S.U. stood down.
Reply - cancel seminar - no further personal at scene.

0755hrs (LOG 1)
Mr NOTTAGE from Colchester, sub divisional commander, ambulance on scene.

0808hrs (LOG 1 and LOG 5)
Dr Craig attending within 5 - 10 minutes (via CW).

0809hrs (LOG 2)
Ambulance crews stood down.

0810hrs (LOG 1 and LOG 5)
House now been thoroughly searched by firearms team. Now confirmed a further three bodies found - five dead in total (info’ from duty Inspector).

0813hrs (LOG 2)
Chief Supt’ Harris, Chief Inspector Gibbons entered house. PS Bews to advise Jeremy of situation.

0815hrs (LOG 2)
Request from A.D.C. Simpson for Mr Harris to make contact.

0819hrs (LOG 1)
Ambulance 051 with Witham crew leave.
0820hrs (LOG 1)


0821hrs (LOG 5)
DS Davidson leaving CD for scene.

0825hrs (LOG 1)
Dr Craig arrives on scene to see son, Jeremy. Then on to farmhouse with PS Bews.

0826hrs (LOG 2 and LOG 5)
From DCI Jones, inform DI Miller and request him to attend scene.

0827hrs (LOG 5)
Witham contacted will call out DI Miller to scene.

0829hrs(LOG 1)
Ambulance 070 with Maldon crew leave.

0830hrs (LOG 2)
From Inspector Montgomery - no persons to pass control vehicle. PC’s Lay and batchelor on house, front and back.

0832hrs (LOG 1)
All units commence leaving scene.

0838hrs (LOG 5)
DS Davidson/ DC Hammersley leaving CD en route to scene.

0842hrs (LOG 1)
Dog unit from scene (PC Mercer)

0843hrs (LOG 1)
H.Q. unit from scene.

0845hrs (LOG 5)
Coroner required at scene plus two more officers and vehicle. PC Wright attending.

0846hrs (LOG 1)
QK23 from scene.

0847hrs (LOG 1)
QK24 from scene

0850hrs (LOG 5)
PC Watson and WPC Cummings attending in CA4 (0856) now cancelled support unit attending.

0851hrs (LOG 1)
Chief Supt’ Harris and Dr Craig speak with Jeremy (walkabout).

0854hrs (LOG 1)
Detective Chief Inspector Jones arrives at scene with PC Clark. Liase with PS Bews and Chief Supt’ Harris having left Jeremy with Dr Craig.

1030hrs (LOG 5)
PC Tingey called required to attend scene regarding Draw planning. ETA.

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2012, 05:10:PM »
Actually Keira we could have another day out taking photos and collecting evidence

You could meet Mercer as well apparently he is a really really nice person


Great idea. I would love to meet this lovely man  ;D

Haven't Nick and Vic gone quiet...

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2012, 05:24:PM »
Which CO-OP Jackie? Kings Road, Duke Street, Market Street, Torquay Road, there's one at Meadgate Ave as well i think. I am off work this week and would love a chat with someone who worked on the case.

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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2012, 05:39:PM »
Which CO-OP Jackie? Kings Road, Duke Street, Market Street, Torquay Road, there's one at Meadgate Ave as well i think. I am off work this week and would love a chat with someone who worked on the case.


I'll bet you would.

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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2012, 05:40:PM »
We could end up in the same place for a pub lunch and I think Tyler wants to come this time as she is only in Southend


Great idea!

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« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2012, 05:41:PM »
I understand no prob. Shall have a little scout about after the school run tomorrow. Can't be too many Mr.Mercers working in CO-OP's in Chelmsford. You are right about Chelmsford being so large, City status was granted today.

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2012, 05:44:PM »
We could go to that place we discussed in West Mersea too, Jackie, it's only 10 minutes away from there.

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2012, 05:48:PM »
I don't actually think we should speak to Mr Mercer, Jackie, it would be construed as attempting to tamper with a witness. Better to wait and see what transpires.

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« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2012, 05:51:PM »
Yes I just checked it is only ten minutes

I have a very strong hunch interviews have already been done and this is going in the documentary which will be a strong point from a public perception of the case


Excellent!

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2012, 05:53:PM »
Which CO-OP Jackie? Kings Road, Duke Street, Market Street, Torquay Road, there's one at Meadgate Ave as well i think. I am off work this week and would love a chat with someone who worked on the case.


Why are you hyperventilating over Mr Mercer's evidence, simong? Does this case have personal significance for you?

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Re: Sniffer dog
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2012, 05:55:PM »
Yes I just checked it is only ten minutes

I have a very strong hunch interviews have already been done and this is going in the documentary which will be a strong point from a public perception of the case

Since you are saying this I hope it is correct as it will certainly be the subject of comment if it is not.  I am somewhat surprised that I was not aware of this interview.  However, I will look forward to the documentary.



 

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« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2012, 06:04:PM »
Since you are saying this I hope it is correct as it will certainly be the subject of comment if it is not.  I am somewhat surprised that I was not aware of this interview.  However, I will look forward to the documentary.



 


No need to worry, NGB, the name is correct, but the places are fictitious to protect the innocent  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2012, 06:07:PM »
Ngb you are aware of who is making the documentary and I know hours of filming has been done but who knows what makes the final cut

I am confident it will shake the public watching

So you know for a fact that PC Mercer was interviewed by Mark?