Big mistake

[JackiePreece]

Bob I was watching that interview with Simon today at the BBC and it's so surreal because it wasn't till the beginning of last summer Simon and I started messaging each other and he wished me good luck with the fight for JB then he saw my little home made video and we were messaging a lot and today I am listening to him on BBC talking about the case

[Nuala]

I think we've all posted in anger and woken to regret it Jackie/Rochie.
And yet we've not been banned for our sins 

Hartley and Vic were not posting in anger, Bob, they were too systematic in their attacks on Mike and and enjoying it too much for this to be brushed off as temper tantrums.

I twice closed down my account here because I felt I was virtually being made an unwilling accomplice of Hartley's offensive abuse of Mike, Grahame and, at times, NGB, as it was impossible to avoid seeing this, Hartley posted everywhere, sometimes posting 70 times a day.

By logging on here, I felt I was adding to the audience that Hartley craves. I was angry that no action was taken regarding Hartley's - and, later, Vic's and Andrea's offensive posts and numerous breaches of forum rules.

Hartley's bullying - and Vic was beginning to emulate him - turned this forum into a unpleasant place to be. How many members Left the forum and did not return because of this?

I suspect that Hartley and co were intent on damaging this forum; because they do not want the gross injustice of Jeremy Bamber's trial to be brought out into the open and they are intent on damaging Jeremy's chance of an Appeal.

Well, they failed and I hope they never return.


Modified in the light of Nick's comments

 

[smiffy]

all 3 were extremely unpleasant individuals in my view and thoroughly dishonest and disruptive.
they fully deserve the permanent bans and glad to see the back of them.

[bob]

Bob I was watching that interview with Simon today at the BBC and it's so surreal because it wasn't till the beginning of last summer Simon and I started messaging each other and he wished me good luck with the fight for JB then he saw my little home made video and we were messaging a lot and today I am listening to him on BBC talking about the case

I haven't seen that interview Jackie - I shall have to seek it out.

I still wonder, though, why you "pros" aren't more suspicious of his involvement - out of the blue a man with a speciality in "covert policing, intelligence and witness protection" who rarely defends, has shown an oddly altruistic interest in JB's case... if I was a paranoid JBer I'd be asking some questions...

[bob]

all 3 were extremely unpleasant individuals in my view and thoroughly dishonest and disruptive.
they fully deserve the permanent bans and glad to see the back of them.

Whereas you only got a 2 week suspension?

[Nuala]

I haven't seen that interview Jackie - I shall have to seek it out.

I still wonder, though, why you "pros" aren't more suspicious of his involvement - out of the blue a man with a speciality in "covert policing, intelligence and witness protection" who rarely defends, has shown an oddly altruistic interest in JB's case... if I was a paranoid JBer I'd be asking some questions...

Come on, Bob, you've tried this tactic too many times, it doesn't work, mate, we aren't listening to you.

[bob]

Come on, Bob, you've tried this tactic too many times, it doesn't work, mate, we aren't listening to you.

On the contrary. I think I've only ever posted about this once, and don't recall ever getting much of a response - I stand to be corrected of course.

And you are listening to me - as evidenced by the fact you responded.

[Nuala]

Bob three high profile people from different parts of the judicial system have told me he will walk but we will have to wait to see what happens

Interesting, I wonder who they are? Don't tell me, leave me guessing, Jackie.

[nugnug]

and only a cuple of days ago we were all geting on so well.

[mike tesko]

Mike ,when are you going to show us how bountflower got hold of the end cap?

Here's one documentary reference to the metal cap from the end of the rifles barrel, that David Boutflour handed to police on 14th September 1985, along with other exhibits:-

[mertol22]

It happens , i always found hartley calm till his attack on jackie and he left i never shared his views .

[mike tesko]

Metal cap that fits onto the end of the rifles barrel was found in the gun cupboard at whf on 14th September 1985, by David Boutflour, same place that Bamber silencer was found on 10th August 1985...

Both the metal cap and the silencer could be fitted to the end of the guns barrel, and both these items were found in the same gun cupboard, and this suggests in the strongest possible way that neither was fitted to the end of the guns barrel at the time Ralph and Sheila were shot, because both items (end cap and silencer) were in the gun cupboard where they were normally kept, at the time of the shootings...

[mike tesko]

I will post other documentary proof about the existence and finding of the metal end cap that fitted the end of the rifles barrel during the course of tomorrow evening

[jf71]

Just received an email from Andrea that she's also been banned,
Guess that's it then - the end of an era.

Good luck to those of you who feel happiest when your world view is not challenged.
Personally I feel I learn more when it is 

I agree Bob. x

[tonyb]

Here's one documentary reference to the metal cap from the end of the rifles barrel, that David Boutflour handed to police on 14th September 1985, along with other exhibits:-

Is it known where the items were discovered.i of course assume he didn't supply the soil sample?