Big mistake

[andrea]

I have just had a phone call off Vic, he and harts have been banned from the forum. Vic would like to say that anyone who has his number is more than welcome to stay intouch.

Big mistake getting shut of vic and harts, both excellent posters, so the forum will now be one sided except for my self and nick, tut tut. I can hear the bell tolling already.

[mike tesko]

I have just had a phone call off Vic, he and harts have been banned from the forum. Vic would like to say that anyone who has his number is more than welcome to stay intouch.

Big mistake getting shut of vic and harts, both excellent posters, so the forum will now be one sided except for my self and nick, tut tut. I can hear the bell tolling already.

How the fuck would you like to be on the receiving end of all the abuse I have been getting from them bastards - the big mistake was that they attacked me on my own forum, if anyone is not happy then leave..

[andrea]

Stop telling lies and making up stories then..... Muppet.

Bamber is guilty, end of.

[mike tesko]

Stop telling lies and making up stories then..... Muppet.

Bamber is guilty, end of.

Bye, Muppet brain, find something else more useful to do with your time...

[mike tesko]

For anyone who is in any doubt about Bambers innocence or not, based purely upon whether a silencer was fitted to the guns barrel, I take this opportunity to remind everyone that when the rifles barrel was photographed in various locations atop Sheila's body, the thread on the end of the guns barrel was exposed and that this new evidence obtained in Arizona confirms that the entry wounds were made without a silencer being fitted to the end of the barrel - therefore, this new evidence that a silencer was not used to shoot Sheila is backed up by the crime scene photographs taken by the police of the rifle atop Sheila's body and against her neck in different positions minus a silencer...

[JackiePreece]

Andrea instead of taking pot shots at Mike why don't you sort out your friend Shona who seems to think it's clever to abuse anyone she feels like. She is a disgrace

In your opinion Jeremy is guilty not that it counts for much

[Gillian]

I am not taking sides and certainly do not agree with members making personal attacks against others on the forum, however, I did think their posts were of value to the forum.  I did not agree with most of what they said but it was nice to hear their views on why they thought JB was guilty.  I also learned a little more about the family because of what they had to say.

I must say Mike that the information on this site is excellent and as a newbie I have and am still learning a lot, but just because members have differing opinions to you that does not mean that they should be banned.  If you want this forum to just have members who agree with what you are saying all of the time then you will not have a forum.  I think you are trying to control what members say and this should not be able to happen.  Your language to other people is not acceptable and if Andrea had said that to you then she would have been banned but as the owner of the forum you will not.  Very very unfair.

I am not happy but will not leave so there if you want to ban me you can.  I will, however, offer my full sincere apologies if personal attacks have been made and led you to your decision.

[mike tesko]

I am not taking sides and certainly do not agree with members making personal attacks against others on the forum, however, I did think their posts were of value to the forum.  I did not agree with most of what they said but it was nice to hear their views on why they thought JB was guilty.  I also learned a little more about the family because of what they had to say.

I must say Mike that the information on this site is excellent and as a newbie I have and am still learning a lot, but just because members have differing opinions to you that does not mean that they should be banned.  If you want this forum to just have members who agree with what you are saying all of the time then you will not have a forum.  I think you are trying to control what members say and this should not be able to happen.  Your language to other people is not acceptable and if Andrea had said that to you then she would have been banned but as the owner of the forum you will not.  Very very unfair.

I am not happy but will not leave so there if you want to ban me you can.  I will, however, offer my full sincere apologies if personal attacks have been made and led you to your decision.

Well, thanks for your point of view, but for my part I am not taking any more crap from anybody, if you could see the abuse I am getting from everywhere you might understand why I took the decision I did. The other thing is these people have been deliberately trying to goad and wind me up to try and get the sort of reactions that I responded with to try and get the forum shut down, because they don't like the information and evidence that is being posted or talked about. The only way to prevent this from succeeding is to ban individuals who take the approach they took. I am not normally keen to ban anyone but they have gone too far, and in any event they can always set up their own forum and talk amongst their selves, say what they want to each other, call me all the names under the sun, but at least they will be doing it on their own forum, so I wish them luck in that particular quest...

Of course anyone can choose to leave this forum at any stage, I have no control over that unless anyone gets abusive then of course i will ban them immediately because I am not putting up with it any more, and I am fed up of being drawn into using the kind of language these individuals have been drawing from me. Let them wind each other up, in their own little space, and leave me to have my say here on my own forum...

[JackiePreece]

Gillian I think we have all lost our temper on the forum and I expect they will come back

I dont appreciate Andreas comment Jeremy Bamber is guilty end of!!!!

Great debate

[mike tesko]

Police took these pictures of the rifles barrel on Sheila's body at a time when there was no silencer, and no end cap on the thread on the end of the guns barrel, and this is consistent with the findings obtained during tests carried out in Arizona:-

[mike tesko]

The wounds on Sheila's neck were made by the end of the rifles barrel, minus its end cap or the silencer, so there can be little if any doubt about whether or not there was a silencer fitted at the time Sheila was shot on either, or both occasions?

[mike tesko]

The wounds on Sheila's neck were made by the end of the rifles barrel, minus its end cap or the silencer, so there can be little if any doubt about whether or not there was a silencer fitted at the time Sheila was shot on either, or both occasions?

Since a silencer was not fitted to the end of the guns barrel at the time Sheila was shot twice, how could her blood have got into the silencer and be used as if it somehow or in someway proves that Sheila did not kill herself?

[tyler]

Thats really weird.......the Boss saying they should get their own forum?I was thinking  just that the other day.On their own they are great,but when both on the forum together,they tend to get a little braver and are prone to gang up a little on other members?
It was interesting to read Gillians post regarding vic and hartleys "insights" into the relatives,as how they portray them and how they are portrayed in their own statements and in books etc,just simply do not tally?
Anyway,Im sure they will be back at some point?

[mike tesko]

Since a silencer was not fitted to the end of the guns barrel at the time Sheila was shot twice, how could her blood have got into the silencer and be used as if it somehow or in someway proves that Sheila did not kill herself?

It was the silencer evidence and the blood found inside it, and the testimony of prosecution experts who testified to the effect that this blood could only have got into the silencer by a process of a little known phenomena known as back-spatter, at the time Sheila died in the bedroom, yet because evidence is now available to show that a silencer was not fitted to the guns barrel at the time either of the two shots had been inflicted where does that leave the prosecutions case, since now that it can be shown by expert opinion that a silencer was not fitted to the gun, to be pondered is exactly how the blood which was supposedly unique and exclusive to Sheila managed to get into a silencer which was not used in the shootings?

[jf71]

Mike, wish you'd stop putting those pics of Sheila in to the threads - I often read the posts late at night so keep seeing Sheila's face when I go to sleep!!!!!  :'(