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Offline tonyb

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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2012, 06:56:PM »
Mike ,when are you going to show us how bountflower got hold of the end cap?
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2012, 06:57:PM »
In any event:-

neither of these two silencers, (a) the one found by DS 'Stan' Jones at the scene on 7th August 1985 (SBJ/1), nor (b) the one found by the relatives in the gun cupboard on 10th August 1985 (DRB/1) was fitted to the barrel of the rifle at the time Sheila was shot and killed in the bedroom...
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2012, 06:58:PM »
Mike ,when are you going to show us how blountflower got hold of the end cap?

I will post one of the documentary references to it later tonight...
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2012, 06:59:PM »
I will post one of the documentary references to it later tonight...
Thank you. I find this quite intriguing
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2012, 07:01:PM »
I think we have been told that the silencer was simply able to "unscrew" from the rifle?
However,I could be wrong?

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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2012, 07:02:PM »
In any event:-

neither of these two silencers, (a) the one found by DS 'Stan' Jones at the scene on 7th August 1985 (SBJ/1), nor (b) the one found by the relatives in the gun cupboard on 10th August 1985 (DRB/1) was fitted to the barrel of the rifle at the time Sheila was shot and killed in the bedroom...

At the time the Bamber silencer was handed over to DS 'Stan' Jones on the evening of 12th August 1985 by Peter Eaton, the relatives had no idea that the police already had one of the silencers, until Pargeter broke the news to them that his own silencer was kept at whf and as yet he didn't know what had happened to it?
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2012, 07:08:PM »
At the time the Bamber silencer was handed over to DS 'Stan' Jones on the evening of 12th August 1985 by Peter Eaton, the relatives had no idea that the police already had one of the silencers, until Pargeter broke the news to them that his own silencer was kept at whf and as yet he didn't know what had happened to it?

Pargeter got his (SBJ/1) silencer back at the beginning of October 1985, after the Bamber silencer (DRB/1) was put into the fray and the blood and paint allocated to it?
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2012, 07:12:PM »
The funny thing about those burn marks on the back of Ralph's neck, is that they were made by the exposed thread barrel end, minus its end cap, or a silencer...
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2012, 07:16:PM »
According to the evidence formed as part of the prosecutions case, Sheila had died last...

yet...

if true, how was/is it that the burn marks on the back of Ralph's neck were made by the barrel of the rifle minus its end cap or a silencer, and in order for the blood found inside the silencer to be unique and exclusive to Sheila somebody would have had to screw the silencer back onto the barrel of the rifle in time to shoot Sheila and kill her and then take the silencer off and do all the impossible things the prosecution said Sheila would have had to have done, if she had killed herself?

But...

Wounds made to Sheila's neck were made by the rifles barrel minus its end cap or a silencer...
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 07:21:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2012, 07:19:PM »
Well done for banning that horrible wretch Hartley, Mike. Many of his posts were abusive and offensive. He broke more forum rules than I've had hot dinners. Such was Hartley's arrogance that he thought that he was untouchable and could do just as he liked here.  Good riddance, Hartley! Vic used to be more reasonable, but he had begun taking his cues from Hartley's abuse. Hartley and Vic, you have only yourselves to blame.

I didn't particularly like having to ban either, but they went out to wind me up and got me bad mouthing back at them which for my part was out of order, but I am simply not going to put up with anyone goading anyone on my site, especially as there is currently a campaign to try and get this forum shut down...
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 07:19:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2012, 07:27:PM »
how can they get this forum shut down i dont see how they can.

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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2012, 07:33:PM »
how can they get this forum shut down i dont see how they can.

They are trying to get it shut down because of the photographs being shown, by claiming they are being posted disrespectfully, but that is definitely not the case, the photographs have been posted and will continue to be posted to make specific points about irregularities in the prosecution case...

I know that the photographs are upsetting, I don't need anyone to tell me that, of course they are...

But sometimes you have to to look at things which are upsetting to get to the truth, and this is one of those occasions...
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2012, 07:35:PM »
yes but i dont see any legal way they can get it shut down unless they own the copyright on those photos.

disrespectful or not there is no crime in British law of being disrespectful.

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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2012, 07:39:PM »
yes but i dont see any legal way they can get it shut down unless they own the copyright on those photos.

disrespectful or not there is no crime in British law of being disrespectful.

Well. Essex police are not telling the truth about how many photographs were taken, and they have got rid of some of the negatives, they have falsified accounts about how many albums existed and deliberately sought to mislead Bambers legal team before the trial, at the last appeal and even now up to the present moment in time...

None of the images have been posted with a view to the posting of them being disrespectful, they have been posted with a view to making a specific point...
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Re: Big mistake
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2012, 07:40:PM »
Andrea instead of taking pot shots at Mike why don't you sort out your friend Shona who seems to think it's clever to abuse anyone she feels like. She is a disgrace

In your opinion Jeremy is guilty not that it counts for much
What's Shona got to do with it Jackie? She doesn't post on this forum.

I am dumbfounded with what I've just read re. Vic and Hartley being banned.
I can't see how Neil and Grahame could continue as admins if this is true  :(
Mike really seems to have jumped the shark  :-\
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 07:55:PM by bob »