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Offline vidvic

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2012, 02:28:PM »
They usualy get a 24hr head start.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2012, 02:39:PM »
They usualy get a 24hr head start.
So you have to keep it zipped on here for a day eh Vic?  ;D

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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2012, 02:45:PM »
yep, if they tell me that is...!!
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2012, 02:45:PM »
Colin Cafell. The murdered  twins father.

What evidence did he give?...was he actually there to witness the events?

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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2012, 02:48:PM »

Then we go to the PII evidence still being held. I think if this evidence was all released we would all feel more comfortable which side of the fence we are on

Well, they are certainly not withholding anything that proves his guilt, so I can't see anyone changing to the he's guilty side if they do release anything else.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2012, 02:49:PM »
What evidence did he give?...was he actually there to witness the events?
No but Colin is absolutely convinced of Bamber's guilt and he couldn't be accused of having a financial interest for framing Bamber.

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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2012, 02:53:PM »
No but Colin is absolutely convinced of Bamber's guilt and he couldn't be accused of having a financial interest for framing Bamber.

That must come back to "gut feeling" on his part because like us he hasn't seen the withheld evidence

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2012, 02:53:PM »
  Hartley, Here's one for your random musings. When the recent ECHR ruling went against Bamber, do you think if he had not been used as part of the test case and only the other two, who are serial psychopaths and must never be released, that it would have been thrown out much earlier. And was it wise for his team to have allowed his case to be used at a time when an appeal attempt was underway. I thought it was a cynical and weakened his cause, giving an impression of him as foolish. Declining that offer instead of excepting it would have said more about his campaign of innocence, in my opinion.     

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2012, 02:55:PM »
Vic there are people that lean towards guilty but are not sure because they believe evidence is witheld under PII.



Ngb how factual was In the Name of the Father?

Was there really a file sitting in storage that had on it Do Not Show To The Defence and could there be a file just like sitting in storage?

That film was very haunting!
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2012, 02:56:PM »
  Hartley, Here's one for your random musings. When the recent ECHR ruling went against Bamber, do you think if he had not been used as part of the test case and only the other two, who are serial psychopaths and must never be released, that it would have been thrown out much earlier. And was it wise for his team to have allowed his case to be used at a time when an appeal attempt was underway. I thought it was a cynical and weakened his cause, giving an impression of him as foolish. Declining that offer instead of excepting it would have said more about his campaign of innocence, in my opinion.   

No, because the appeal was on the grounds of human rights and directly relating to the whole life tariff, their crimes were given as background only, they were not taken into account in any way.
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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2012, 02:58:PM »
No but Colin is absolutely convinced of Bamber's guilt and he couldn't be accused of having a financial interest for framing Bamber.

Dv8 I am absolutely convinced Lamberton looks like a pervert that doesn't mean he is one
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2012, 03:02:PM »
No but Colin is absolutely convinced of Bamber's guilt and he couldn't be accused of having a financial interest for framing Bamber.

Out of interest Hartley or Vidvic do you know if Jeremy ever blamed Colin for the deaths of his family?

Re that last journey to WHF when Sheila asked Colin to take her back and he said he was with someone else
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2012, 03:26:PM »
Dv8 I am absolutely convinced Lamberton looks like a pervert that doesn't mean he is one
But Colin is convinced by the evidence of Bamber's guilt. Just as all the other relatives are.
Not a gut feeling.

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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 03:30:PM »
Dv8 circumstantial evidence as you know

Mugford definitely had nothing to back her story up
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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2012, 03:32:PM »
Out of interest Hartley or Vidvic do you know if Jeremy ever blamed Colin for the deaths of his family?

Re that last journey to WHF when Sheila asked Colin to take her back and he said he was with someone else
How do you know about this private conversation in a car? Even if it did happened, to equate that to blame for the murders is quite beyond the pale IMO.