Hartley, Here's one for your random musings. When the recent ECHR ruling went against Bamber, do you think if he had not been used as part of the test case and only the other two, who are serial psychopaths and must never be released, that it would have been thrown out much earlier. And was it wise for his team to have allowed his case to be used at a time when an appeal attempt was underway. I thought it was a cynical and weakened his cause, giving an impression of him as foolish. Declining that offer instead of excepting it would have said more about his campaign of innocence, in my opinion.