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NewChilledOutHartley

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Re: Itemised phone bills
« Reply #150 on: May 14, 2012, 02:08:PM »
Jeremy does not have to prove anything, he does not have to prove something happened, or that it did not happen, the onus to prove anything at all which supports any part of the prosecutions case, rests with the prosecution, and they could not prove that such a call was never made...

On the contrary, the onus is very much on Jeremy to prove his innocence. I'd also suggest that he is not without a considerable incentive to do so.

The main issue here, is that you have claimed (falsely in my opinion) that you have itemised bills for the months prior to August 1985, which would therefore prove that itemised billing was available and did exist.
The reason why nobody believes you, is that after many challenges to do so, you have failed to post the bills on the forum, personally I can't understand why you would be reluctant to do so, there would be no downside for you, you would obtain considerable attention and support if you were able to produce them.

As alluded to above, I believe that the reason you have not posted them, is because they do not exist. I think that is a commonly held belief, even amongst those who do buy into the belief that Jeremy is innocent.

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« Reply #151 on: May 14, 2012, 02:10:PM »
Yes Bridget it is silly to expect somebody to prove a thing did not happen prove it did.

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« Reply #152 on: May 14, 2012, 02:26:PM »
Yes Bridget it is silly to expect somebody to prove a thing did not happen prove it did.

Prove what did? :)
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« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2012, 02:32:PM »
Bridget you little tinker it is better to prove something happened than prove it did not happen can you understand what I am trying to say I can,t silly me.

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« Reply #155 on: May 14, 2012, 02:34:PM »
Newchilled out Hartley  My sentiments exactly.

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Re: Itemised phone bills
« Reply #156 on: May 14, 2012, 03:11:PM »
Jeremy does not have to prove anything, he does not have to prove something happened, or that it did not happen, the onus to prove anything at all which supports any part of the prosecutions case, rests with the prosecution, and they could not prove that such a call was never made...
yes Mike,ridiculous but true
JB doesnt have to prove a thing
he can stay at Her Majesty's Pleasure for as long as he wants...
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« Reply #157 on: May 14, 2012, 03:22:PM »
yes Mike,ridiculous but true
JB doesnt have to prove a thing
he can stay at Her Majesty's Pleasure for as long as he wants...

but contrary to your bleetings, I do not think he will be in prison much longer, I think he will get out...
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« Reply #158 on: May 14, 2012, 03:36:PM »
but contrary to your bleetings, I do not think he will be in prison much longer, I think he will get out...
today,tommorow,sometime,never...
the choice seems to be yours Mike.
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Re: Itemised phone bills
« Reply #159 on: May 14, 2012, 03:47:PM »
Hi NewChilledOutHartley - I agree totally with your comments.   :)

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« Reply #160 on: May 14, 2012, 04:58:PM »
today,tommorow,sometime,never...
the choice seems to be yours Mike.

Wait and see...
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« Reply #161 on: May 14, 2012, 05:05:PM »
Wait and see...
thats the problem
all waiting and no see-ing...  ;)
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Re: Itemised phone bills
« Reply #162 on: May 14, 2012, 05:26:PM »
Hi NewChilledOutHartley - I agree totally with your comments.   :)

whereas...

I completely disagree, there was no evidence to back up anything you say about this matter during the trial or any subsequent appeal it is all speculation on your part, I am afraid...

Point me in the direction of any relevant exhibit containing any evidence to support your view...
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« Reply #163 on: May 14, 2012, 05:37:PM »
Mike your post doesn't make any sense, the post below is what is being agreed with by Gillian.

Nice try at deflection though.  ::)

On the contrary, the onus is very much on Jeremy to prove his innocence. I'd also suggest that he is not without a considerable incentive to do so.

The main issue here, is that you have claimed (falsely in my opinion) that you have itemised bills for the months prior to August 1985, which would therefore prove that itemised billing was available and did exist.
The reason why nobody believes you, is that after many challenges to do so, you have failed to post the bills on the forum, personally I can't understand why you would be reluctant to do so, there would be no downside for you, you would obtain considerable attention and support if you were able to produce them.

As alluded to above, I believe that the reason you have not posted them, is because they do not exist. I think that is a commonly held belief, even amongst those who do buy into the belief that Jeremy is innocent.

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Re: Itemised phone bills
« Reply #164 on: May 14, 2012, 05:55:PM »
Mike your post doesn't make any sense, the post below is what is being agreed with by Gillian.

Nice try at deflection though.  ::)

How do we know whether or not Pamela Boutflour spoke to June Bamber that night at 10pm, if no records exist?
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