Itemised phone bills

[vidvic]

With all due respect mat, these enquiries were made by both prosecution and defence in 1985 and in 2002. I think you will find that in 1985 there was no itemised billing of local calls at WHF whether from a business or domestic line. The D'arcy exchange was one of the last in the country to be modernised. Only calls going through the operator were itemised and these exist. Mike can not show us something which doesn't exist. I just wish he'd admit it.

[Patti]

Given the nature of the calls was it not possible to find the person at the other end  to confirm two voices were different.

Hi Mertol. 27 years ago eh? You would have thought that we had the technology to identify a call......

America sent a man to the moon and we were able to make a call to Apollo 11.......I wont ever believe it in a million years....No Way......

[tonyb]

With all due respect mat, these enquiries were made by both prosecution and defence in 1985 and in 2002. I think you will find that in 1985 there was no itemised billing of local calls at WHF whether from a business or domestic line. The D'arcy exchange was one of the last in the country to be modernised. Only calls going through the operator were itemised and these exist. Mike can not show us something which doesn't exist. I just wish he'd admit it.

+1.

[guest154]

With all due respect mat, these enquiries were made by both prosecution and defence in 1985 and in 2002. I think you will find that in 1985 there was no itemised billing of local calls at WHF whether from a business or domestic line. The D'arcy exchange was one of the last in the country to be modernised. Only calls going through the operator were itemised and these exist. Mike can not show us something which doesn't exist. I just wish he'd admit it.

It's not much work for me to do though and I'll be able to post concrete evidence either way and hopefully we'll all feel a little clearer.

[mertol22]

Hi Mertol. 27 years ago eh? You would have thought that we had the technology to identify a call......

America sent a man to the moon and we were able to make a call to Apollo 11.......I wont ever believe it in a million years....No Way......

You see Patti my issue  is this, its quite ok for mugford in court to start-stop-start -stop and sell her story to a jury with not one shred of proof jeremy said he planned it all earlier, yet investigating things like this would seem too much trouble ,i do believe it would have been quite simple to trace the reciever of the calls down did you not sign in those days for night duty?

[guest154]

Hey people.
I spoke with the contact at BT today, quite an interesting call.

Itemised billing wasn't available in that area for home phone lines even upon request. As for business lines, it was available - but you had to request it over the phone, it had only been in service for 3 months before the date of the murders and there was a charge each month.

[elphick]

A year ago, some different people were discussing this in much the same way.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,549.0.html

Perhaps after a year, we should stand back and take a long hard look at who is claiming to have access to the material.

[Patti]

You see Patti my issue  is this, its quite ok for mugford in court to start-stop-start -stop and sell her story to a jury with not one shred of proof jeremy said he planned it all earlier, yet investigating things like this would seem too much trouble ,i do believe it would have been quite simple to trace the reciever of the calls down did you not sign in those days for night duty?

Hi Mertol. It would be interesting to find out if a telephone number came up from the caller at the exchange where PC West took the call....

The re-dial facility was available then....but not sure if telephone number came up when a call was received to the police......Another question, is would a number have come up if one dialed 999....

[Patti]

Hey people.
I spoke with the contact at BT today, quite an interesting call.

Itemised billing wasn't available in that area for home phone lines even upon request. As for business lines, it was available - but you had to request it over the phone, it had only been in service for 3 months before the date of the murders and there was a charge each month.

Hi Mat...One line into WHF....but Mike said their was a business line plus a residential.....This does not mean that there were two lines, it would mean that Nevill would receive two bills....one for business and one for residential....

Obviously BT haven't got that data available now, but it would be interesting to fins out if that data was applied for by the police.

I am making a list.....

1, Fawn phone phone....was this fully checked by experts to see if it worked?

2, Was all calls checked by BT at the request of the police?

3, One blue Citreon outside 9 Head Street? Did this belong to Matthew McDonald?

[tonyb]

Hey people.
I spoke with the contact at BT today, quite an interesting call.

Itemised billing wasn't available in that area for home phone lines even upon request. As for business lines, it was available - but you had to request it over the phone, it had only been in service for 3 months before the date of the murders and there was a charge each month.

Mat,I do admire your efforts.However I do believe that you must prop up the information you have received via a phone call by posting some do cumentry evidence,so to speak. Although i am in agreement with most of your post without proof as opposed to hearsay it lacks a little credibility IMO.

[Reader]

but Mike said their was a business line plus a residential...

I don't recall that he said that, but I think he said it was a business line. I doubt that a single number could be for both business and residential at the same time, as the exchange wouldn't know which calls should be billed as business calls.

[maggie]

I don't recall that he said that, but I think he said it was a business line. I doubt that a single number could be for both business and residential at the same time, as the exchange wouldn't know which calls should be billed as business calls.

Mike definitely said it was a business line and showed a bill for July 1985. Not sure about the residential bit Patti.

[guest154]

Mat,I do admire your efforts.However I do believe that you must prop up the information you have received via a phone call by posting some do cumentry evidence,so to speak. Although i am in agreement with most of your post without proof as opposed to hearsay it lacks a little credibility IMO.

That's understandable. I obviously don't have proof as all I had was a phone call - however I didn't really do this for the forum it was more for my own benefit - so posters are advised to believe what they wish.

Or make the phone call themselves.

[Bridget]

Mike definitely said it was a business line and showed a bill for July 1985. Not sure about the residential bit Patti.

I don't think he did, people have been asking him to for more than a year now. He did post a bill which showed international calls, but no local calls.

[maggie]

I don't think he did, people have been asking him to for more than a year now. He did post a bill which showed international calls, but no local calls.

Your right, sorry my memory let me down there I should have checked it.